Looking Back, also known as Anthology, is a triple LP anthology by American soul musician Stevie Wonder, released in 1977 on Motown Records.
Favorite Album Sides (cont’d.)
Side three
- “Down to Earth” – (2:48)
- “Thank You Love” – (2:50)
- “Hey Love” – (2:44)
- “Travelin’ Man” – (2:54)
- “Until You Come Back to Me (That’s What I’m Gonna Do)” – (3:06)
- “I Was Made to Love Her” – (2:35)
- “I’m Wondering” – (2:52)
http://www.4shared.com/file/245703389/9092ba68/03_Down_To_Earth.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/245706978/5a44e3d5/05_Thank_You_Love.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/245677649/ccf2af6d/11_Hey_Love.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/245712742/2920cae5/09_Travelin_Man.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/245713617/9d43c77d/03_Until_You_Come_Back_to_Me.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/245673613/de322561/03_I_Was_Made_to_Love_Her.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/245673761/7ebfb8bd/04_Im_Wondering.html
R. Kelly
http://www.4shared.com/file/245698168/6bdf45cb/11_Hey_Love__Can_I_Have_A_Word.html
BlessedIsTruth's Blog 
March 21, 2010 at 2:33 am |
Kurt Schrader Commits To Voting Yes: 205 Yes, 207 No
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/20/kurt-schrader-commits-to-voting-yes-205-yes-207-no/
Schrader was a pretty necessary get for Pelosi.
It doesn’t totally change the calculus:
Democrats must limit the Stupak bloc to 6, and pick up 2 votes elsewhere, either from uncommitted members who voted No last time (Baird, L.Davis, Nye, Tanner) or from flipping some hard No vote.
205 Yes
207 No
9 Undecided
10 Stupak
March 21, 2010 at 2:34 am |
UPDATE: Three others to watch, who I think will come around but who aren’t totally confirmed: Loretta Sanchez, Jim Cooper, and Ron Klein.
UPDATE: Cooper talking about history in the making, sounds like a Yes.
March 21, 2010 at 2:35 am |
Executive Order Looks Like A Way Out For Dems
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/20/executive-order-looks-like-a-way-out-for-dems/
Looking at the numbers, I don’t see a really good way to evade the Stupak bloc without pulling the trigger on the executive order from the President clarifying no federal funding for abortion services.
…
In a twist, Republicans may offer their own Stupak language inside a motion to recommit.
David Waldman tells you more than you ever need to know about that action.
But basically, motions to recommit have in recent years been used by the minority to force a distasteful vote on the majority.
Certainly the Stupak amendment qualifies.
And as it has passed the House already with 240 votes, it certainly good again, which would cause all kinds of problems.
The session tomorrow will begin around 2:00 pm ET.
Three votes – potentially four – will be taken.
First there will be a vote on the rule, with an hour of debate on it.
Expect a vote around 3:00 ET.
Then there will be two hours of debate on the reconciliation bill.
That will get a vote around 5:00 ET.
There would be no debate in between the reconciliation bill and the Senate bill, which would happen around 5:30 ET.
If there is a motion to recommit, that would get sandwiched in before the vote on the reconciliation bill.
See you then.
(Thank you, Mr. Dayen.)
March 21, 2010 at 3:19 am |
Judgment Day for health reform
http://thehill.com/homenews/house/88065-judgment-day-for-healthcare-reform
Some fires continued to smolder, however.
Rep. Bart Stupak (Mich.), the leader of a voting bloc of anti-abortion-rights Democrats, lost a gambit to secure a vote on his language further restricting abortion coverage under the bill and seemed to lose up to half of his dozen Democratic allies.
With Pelosi and her lieutenants working overtime to scare up votes from Democrats who opposed the original House bill last year, however, Stupak and his compatriots – who supported Pelosi last time – could continue to hold sway over the process.
Lawmakers said Obama is considering an executive order affirming that the bill would not permit federal funding of abortion.
Stupak and likeminded Democrats neither embraced the notion nor ruled it out and neither did abortion rights supporters.
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer (D-Md.) declared, “Clearly, we think we have the votes” —
yet the outcome of Sunday’s action remains uncertain.
March 21, 2010 at 3:23 am |
Looking Back is of course a refernce to the lyrics of this song.
March 21, 2010 at 3:33 am |
Looking back on when I
Was a little nappy headed boy
http://www.4shared.com/file/245754691/d4ae7639/Stevie_Wonder_-_Songs_in_the_K.html
March 21, 2010 at 3:40 am |
Made some changes
March 21, 2010
http://www.4shared.com/play/10329682/efdae9dd/sharing.html
You can click on green arrow at end of each line, I mean if you choose to.
March 21, 2010 at 4:00 am |
Good night, good people! How do you feel?!
Would you like to say something before you leave
Perhaps you’d care to state exactly how you feel
We said goodbye before we’ve said hello
I hardly even like you, I shouldn’t care at all
We met just six hours ago, the music was too loud
From your bed I gained a day and lost a bloody year
And I would like to know
How do you feel? How do you feel, how?
How do you feel? How do you feel, how?
March 21, 2010 at 8:12 am |
cyn
I just saw your comment
I’m being a couch potato on my bberry and scrolled up and there it was
Sorry you are so upset
I too have been going back and forth
Now.I am calm
I would like to reply to what you wrote
I will in the morning
Geez Louise I hope I didn’t miss any other comments
Sometimes I get carried away
Love you girl
Rosie
March 21, 2010 at 8:24 am |
Nye moves out of the “undecided” category, and Loretta Sanchez makes her first appearance on the chart. That bumps the total to 209 no, 204 yes.
10 stupak
8 undecided
David dayen
March 21, 2010 at 8:40 am |
re: Hope [Kathryn Jean Lopez] EO sounds like it’s being agreed to. Thank goodness all hope does not rest in politics. Good night. See you tomorrow.
Eo equals executive order
March 21, 2010 at 8:53 am |
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=36125
Re executive order
March 21, 2010 at 8:57 am |
House Republican Whip Rep. Eric Cantor released a collection of statements this afternoon showing any executive order President Obama makes on abortion cannot override a law duly passed by Congress.Democrats had been talking of using an executive order to prohibit federal funding of abortion, since it is not included in the Senate health care bill the House is currently trying to pass. Several House Democrats are refusing to vote for the bill unless there is a safeguard against federal funding of abortions.Cantor’s office cited several Supreme Court rulings and the opinion of several pro life organizations explaining why any attempt to fix the abortion problem in the health care bill through executive order won’t hold up
March 21, 2010 at 9:02 am |
Family Research Council warns against the promise of: “an Executive Order (EO) that would magically fix the fact that the Senate bill (H.R. 3590) would spend government funds to pay for elective abortions. Further, the Reconciliation bill will make matters worse by increasing funding for community health centers, which will bypass any abortion funding restrictions in appropriations bills because it is directly appropriated. Both taken together will fund abortion, regardless of any EO.”
March 21, 2010 at 9:42 am |
Republicans have a few procedural arrows in their quiver to try to derail the legislation at the last minute. Republicans could attempt to use a “motion to recommit” to add Stupak’s language to the House bill designed to make fixes to the Senate bill under reconciliation. Democrats have options at hand to prevent such a move from succeeding – including asking rank-and-file members who supported Stupak in November to switch their vote – but, if agreed to, it could throw a procedural wrench into the reconciliation bill. That’s because the abortion-related language would almost certainly be subject to a procedural challenge in the Senate, increasing the possibility that the two chambers would have to play ping-pong with the reconciliation bill. Minority party leaders keep their plans on motions to recommit close to their vests, so it was unclear whether the GOP’s motion to recommit would involve abortion or another issue.
March 21, 2010 at 2:20 pm |
205 yes
209 no
9 stupak
8 undecided
431 total
David dayen
(I think.)
March 21, 2010 at 2:24 pm |
206 yes
209 no
9 stupak
7 undecided
431 total
March 21, 2010 at 2:26 pm |
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/21/kaptur-a-yes/
UPDATE: Solomon Ortiz, who I had as a holdout, will vote Yes. 206-209.
UPDATE II: The Kaptur yes is based on her own words to a local news station. So this is confirmed.
206 yes
209 no
9 stupak
7 undecided
431 total
March 21, 2010 at 2:27 pm |
Not sure yet if changes are coming from stupak bloc or “undecideds.”
March 21, 2010 at 2:29 pm |
TOTAL 209 9 7 0 206
yeah, that’s what david dayen has up to now.
March 21, 2010 at 2:43 pm |
http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/03/21/the-hitchhiker%E2%80%99s-guide-to-the-house-and-health-care-for-sunday/
The GOP will then be allowed to offer what’s called a “motion to recommit” or MTR.
This is the minority party’s last effort to kill the bill.
A short debate will ensue, which probably takes us to at least 6:15 pm.
There will then be a vote on the motion to recommit. That takes us to at least 6:40.
March 21, 2010 at 2:54 pm |
http://www.congressmatters.com/storyonly/2010/3/20/2205/-On-Motions-to-Recommit
As you know, Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI-01) has been scheming to find a procedural back door to shoehorning his anti-abortion language into the health insurance reform bill.
And though all reports now indicate that there will be no deal for an enrollment corrections resolution, we’re still in danger of seeing the Republicans offer the Stupak language as a motion to recommit.
Can we count on Democrats whose views on abortion are in sympathy with Stupak’s to be Democrats first and abortion activists second?
That is the question the motion will frame.
March 21, 2010 at 3:15 pm |
Potential No-Yes Flips (3):
1 Baird, Brian X R D+0 1
2 Davis, Lincoln X R+14 1
3 Tanner, John X R R+6 1
Potential Yes-No Flips (4):
1 Foster, Bill X R+1 1
2 Kanjorski, Paul X D+4 1
3 Michaud, Mike X D+5 1
4 Pomeroy, Earl X R+10 1
Stupak Block (9):
1 Costello, Jerry X S D+3 1
2 Donnelly, Joe X S R+4 1
3 Driehaus, Steve X S D+1 1
4 Lipinski, Dan X S D+11 1
5 Stupak, Bart X S R+3 1
6 Berry, Marion X S R+8 1
7 Dahlkemper, Kathy X S R+3 1
8 Mollohan, Alan X S R+9 1
9 Rahall, Nick X S R+6 1
We are down to 16 unknowns according to David dayen
March 21, 2010 at 3:27 pm |
Different lawmakers’ concerns on abortion, Clyburn said, would hopefully be resolved by this afternoon, though he said that the prospect of an executive order by President Barack Obama had not been finalized.I don’t think it’s quite settled yet, but I think it will be by late afternoon, he said. And I fully expect that we get the votes that are necessary.
The hill
March 21, 2010 at 3:33 pm |
Our Readers Get It, Do Pro-Life Dems? [Kathryn Jean Lopez] An e-mail: Do the pro-life democrats understand that an Executive Order can be rescinded by another Executive Order?Do they seriously think that this pro-choice president, who has lied through the process the entire way, will actually keep his word when it can all be undone with the stroke of a pen? And with the delayed onset of the benefits, he can wait several years until everyone has already forgotten about it, and then simply rescind the EO without anyone noticing.The only explanation is that they needed political cover to satisfy their pro-life supporters. 03/21 11:27 AM
March 21, 2010 at 3:52 pm |
re: Stupak [Kathryn Jean Lopez]
I hear he’ll have something to say around noon.
March 21, 2010 at 3:59 pm |
http://www.jillstanek.com/stupak-has-8-nos-hopeful-about.html
UPDATE, 10:35a: Twitter update: “Stupak headed to capitol to look at executive order. Leaning yes? ‘We’ll see.'”
This from Politics Daily:
House Democrats have scheduled a 12:30 meeting of their caucus in advance of the 1:00 House debate on the bill, and Stupak said he hopes to be able to share the language of a possible executive order with his fellow Democrats at the time.
UPATE, 10:48a: Whether this executive order would be binding or not, pro-aborts don’t like it. Still can’t believe they’d let Obama/Dems do this.
March 21, 2010 at 4:02 pm |
http://www.redstate.com/gman2008/2010/03/21/stupak-is-caving/
Also from the Hill is a report saying they are close to a deal:
Due to the timing and the fact I just heard this on Fox, it seems they may have reached a deal.
Melt the phone lines of the Stupak bloc and do it now.
The voters are not stupid.
Executive orders are temporary and governement controlled healthcare will, at some point in the future have federally funded abortion.
The only soltion is to KILL THE BILL.
This guy must be an idiot.
March 21, 2010 at 4:08 pm |
206 Yes
207 No
9 Stupak
9 Undecided
431 Total
David Dayen
March 21, 2010 at 4:11 pm |
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/21/spox-sanchez-will-make-the-vote/
That would make the vote count 206-207, with 9 undecideds and 9 possibly in the Stupak bloc.
Stupak scheduled another press conference that was postponed; stay tuned.
March 21, 2010 at 4:21 pm |
Racism Today [Jay Nordlinger]
A reader sends in an unusual and thought-provoking letter. See what you think:
As everyone sweats out the final Obamacare tallies, I’m struck by a couple of other stories.
In one case, someone reported hearing an anti-black epithet used at a political rally.
In another case, dogged police finally arrested the perpetrator of an intolerable crime.
The perp is a 16-year-old kid who made a potentially offensive comment on a Wal-Mart overhead speaker.
That these things are even remotely newsworthy leads me to one conclusion: Racism in America is dead.
We had slavery, then we had Jim Crow — and now we have the occasional public utterance of a bad word.
Real racism has been reduced to de minimis levels, while charges of racism seem to increase.
I’ll vote for the first politician with the brass to say that “racism” should be dropped from our national dialogue.
We’re a good nation, among the least racist on earth . . .
***
Satan (Hebrew: הַשָׂטָן ha-Satan (“the accuser”)
I’ve often thought this has more to do with the person pointing the accusatory finger.
March 21, 2010 at 4:28 pm |
The continued wrangling came after House Democratic leaders decided Saturday to stage a vote on the Senate’s health-care bill, dropping a much-criticized strategy of allowing lawmakers to “deem” the landmark legislation into law.
But the outcome of that vote remained in doubt as a pivotal bloc of Democrats continued to withhold its support over fears that the bill would open the door to the federal funding of abortion.
House leaders were working to secure their votes with the promise of an executive order affirming Obama’s commitment to a longstanding ban on public abortion funding except in cases of rape or incest, or to save the life of the mother.
Before announcing her intention Sunday to vote for the bill, Kaptur hadsaid she thought the document would be insufficient to bring the entire group of about 10 antiabortion Democrats onboard.
Senior Democrats predicted a cliffhanger when the House is expected to vote Sunday night, saying they are likely to clear the 216-vote threshold for final passage by the narrowest of margins.
Democratic leaders huddled in the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) late into Saturday evening, reviewing the final list of commitments.
Washington Post
March 21, 2010 at 4:37 pm |
“Many honestly believe that health reform will be a great thing for the country. And many honestly believe that it will be a disaster.”
For me, it all comes down to who do you trust.
Obama has been less than honest with us, putting it mildly.
I trust Judd Gregg.
Gregg: Dems Health Bill Remains ‘Fiscally Irresponsible’
March 21, 2010 at 4:39 pm |
A spokeswoman for Rep. Bart Stupak told Fox News that a deal is near for a presidential executive order to address the Michigan Democrat’s abortion funding concerns.
The order — which does not require congressional approval — would be aimed at reflecting long-standing law barring federal aid for abortions except for cases of rape or incest or when the mother’s life is threatened.
But until an agreement is reached, Stupak is still a “no” vote, his spokeswoman, Michelle Begnoche, told Fox News.
March 21, 2010 at 5:06 pm |
Executive Order Details Possibly Leaked
http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/21/executive-order-details-possibly-leaked/
UPDATE: MSNBC reporting Stupak’s a yes. Again, that would be the ballgame, because he’d bring most if not all of his bloc with him.
(Like I said, the Devil Incarnate)
March 21, 2010 at 5:19 pm |
Honestly, if this is the case, I really won’t be watching tonight.
Mahatma Gandhi said that the good guys always win in the end.
It takes time.
Clearly, this is not what America wants, not right now.
We can get to universal coverage without this.
This has never been about health care.
This has always been about a giant power grab.
So, let’s save our energy, cause we’re going to need it.
Republicans in the Senate will do their part.
We have to say no every single time the Dems attempt to “improve” this legislation.
After November things will be different.
God’s Will Be Done.
Fortunately, God gave us free will.
We can choose good or evil.
Eventually, always, we choose good.
March 21, 2010 at 5:27 pm |
March 21, 2010 at 5:36 pm |
I’m a just gonna listen to music while I avert my eyes.
March 21, 2010 at 5:46 pm |
Disregard the master plan.
It’s a disaster, man.
You better ride it out.
March 21, 2010 at 5:52 pm |
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March 21, 2010 at 7:45 pm |
Renaissance
http://www.4shared.com/file/246223633/8e9d9018/01_Trip_To_The_Fair.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246224569/8cae0ba3/02_The_Vultures_Fly_High.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246226041/1c81eb73/03_Ocean_Gypsy.html
March 21, 2010 at 9:19 pm |
Highly recommended!
Discovery Channel Videos:Life: Premiering March 21
Open your eyes to the beauty, the power and the wonder of Life, an extraordinary 11-part event starting Sunday, March 21, at 8PM e/p.
http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/life-premiering-march-21.html
March 21, 2010 at 9:25 pm |
Oh, sour grapes, because I lost my heart
March 21, 2010 at 9:34 pm |
March 21, 2010 at 9:46 pm |
In 2006, Court and Spark was included in 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die.
http://1001beforeyoudie.com/
March 21, 2010 at 10:14 pm |
Favorite Album Sides (cont’d.)
Side A
“Court and Spark” – 2:46
“Help Me” – 3:22
“Free Man in Paris” – 3:02
“People’s Parties” – 2:15
“Same Situation” – 2:57
Side B
“Car on a Hill” – 3:02
“Down to You” – 5:38
“Just Like this Train” – 4:24
“Raised on Robbery” – 3:06
“Trouble Child” – 4:00
“Twisted” – 2:21 (Originally performed by Lambert, Hendricks & Ross)
http://www.4shared.com/file/246303124/bd31a2ba/06_Car_On_A_Hill.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246305253/4b39405b/07_Down_To_You.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246305694/7ee13228/08_Just_Like_This_Train.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246306209/c42ef2ee/09_Raised_On_Robbery.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246307769/2c03f0e6/10_Trouble_Child.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/246308380/9436dd46/11_Twisted.html
March 21, 2010 at 10:35 pm |
Life is strange.
Dreams are strange.
After Robert Preston died, he came to me in a dream and said, “Heaven is that place never ever dreamt of.”
I have the strangest dreams.
Well, I’ve told this one before.
In a dream before he was elected, I told Obama, “Good luck getting blamed for everything that goes wrong the next four years.”
I’ve told this one before, but never on paper, so to speak.
I had a lucid dream about Joni Mitchell.
In this dream I told her I thought she was a great lady.
She said, “Really?!”
And I said, “Yeah, I think you’re a great lady.”
“And I dreamed I saw the bombers.
Riding shotgun in the sky.
And they were turning into butterflies.
Above our nation.”
You know how dreams are.
She told me that she had been a bomber.
In my dream I was surprised by that.
But it didn’t change my opinion of her.
March 21, 2010 at 10:41 pm |
BTW I was a senior in high school (1974 – 1975) in Miami when this album came out.
And I saw this tour in Miami. I remember her parents were there.
I took a lot of pictures.
They’re around here somewhere.
March 22, 2010 at 4:41 am |
http://article.nationalreview.com/428841/obamacare-isnt-inevitable/the-editors
Obamacare isn’t inevitable
March 22, 2010 at 4:52 am |
http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/410aceb9-2c8f-49c5-a846-2a692b716f3b
Hugh Hewitt
March 22, 2010 at 5:09 am |
“Senate Republicans will now do everything in our power to replace the massive tax hikes, Medicare cuts and mandates with the reforms our constituents have been calling for throughout this debate” 33 minutes ago New York Times (21 occurrences) more by Mitch McConnell
March 22, 2010 at 5:28 am |
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35977921/ns/politics-health_care_reform/
It remains to be seen how much senate repubs can unfix
But they’ve pledged to make as many changes as they can
They will make house dems lives as miserable as they can
And will do them no favors
So much bad will
Battle stations!
March 22, 2010 at 5:45 am |
An unknown person on the Republican side yelled out “baby killer” while Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) was speaking on the House floor Sunday evening.
I wrote a couple days ago that stupak will now be regarded as the devil incarnate
Fairly or not
March 22, 2010 at 6:19 am |
Steele issued a release immediately after the House approved healthcare reform legislation, which no Republicans supported.It is time to fire Nancy Pelosi and send a message to President Obama that it’s time to stop their partisan liberal agenda of government takeovers and start working for Americans to create jobs and grow our economy, he said.Nearly all Republicans have said their candidates will run against the massive healthcare overhaul, and some leaders have said they will run on a platform of repealing the bill.
March 22, 2010 at 6:30 am |
http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/bart-stupak-sells-out-brings-unity-health-care-debate
I’d rather be the devil
March 22, 2010 at 6:53 am |
http://blogs.abcnews.com/thenote/2010/03/senate-fight-starts-gop-says-senate-parliamentarian-will-kill-fixits-bill.html
Kill fixits Bill
???
March 22, 2010 at 6:58 am |
Senate Budget Committee Ranking Member Judd Gregg’s statement tonight. “Immediately after receiving the final reconciliation bill language, Senate Republican staff was ready and willing to meet with Senate Democratic staff and the Senate Parliamentarian to discuss the fact that the House reconciliation bill may be brought down by the 310(g) point of order in the Senate. Senate Democrats are mysteriously unavailable until after the House votes on the health care bill tonight. The Senate Democrats appear to be pushing off this meeting so that House Democrats will remain in the dark about what is likely to happen to the reconciliation bill on which many have staked their careers in Congress. House Democrats should be alarmed by this latest development, since the survival of the reconciliation bill is clearly at risk in the Senate.”
March 22, 2010 at 7:31 am |
“We’ve informed our colleagues in the House that we believe the bill they’re now considering violates the clear language of Section 310-G of the Congressional Budget Act,” McConnell spokesman Don Stewart said in a statement. “The entire reconciliation bill is subject to a point of order and rejection in the Senate.”
I don’t know about this
But republicans should try to unfix as many fixes as possible
Don’t do 219 house democrats any favors
and the only good democrats in the senate are the ones who reject reconciliation
March 22, 2010 at 2:59 pm |
Video:
Frist Reacts to Health Care Overhaul
http://www.billfrist.com/?q=blogs/bill-frist-newsline/content/frist-reacts-health-care-overhaul
March 22, 2010 at 3:08 pm |
Mixed Reactions in Wake of Health Care Passage
http://classic.cnbc.com/id/35981635
Health Care Bill Not Affordable
“It’s going to radically, radically expand the size of the federal government…
The biggest problem, as I see it in the out years here, we’re not going to be able to afford it…
Government spending as a percent of GDP will probably close in on 30 percent,
historically it’s been 20 percent and that creates a structural deficit,
which is going to make it very difficult for us to get out of the situation we’re heading towards,
*** which is a fiscal meltdown relative to our ability to sale our debt ***
and people should be worried about that in my opinion.”
— Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH)
Costs Will Continue to Rise
“My real concern with it…this bill fails from the cost standpoint, from the spending standpoint,
there’s really nothing in the bill from a market based standpoint,
the only real way we’re going to be able to control cost over time.
There’s nothing in this bill that is going to slow down the growth of cost…
*** Eventually, we’ll end up dumping more people to the uninsured ***
— Sen. Bill Frist (R-Tenn.)
March 22, 2010 at 3:16 pm |
Health Care Bill Passed the House, But Battles Ahead in Senate, Court
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20000867-503544.html
Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), the top Republican on the Senate Budget Committee, made it clear yesterday passing the reconciliation bill would be a battle.
“The last thing we should do is allow this failed policy to worsen,” Gregg said in a statement.
“The reconciliation bill was used to buy votes in the House, but that does not mean that the Senate should go along with this misguided exercise.”
The GOP wants to force Democrats to stand by the “Cornhusker Kickback” and other less-than-ideal provisions in the bill.
And after more than a year of debate on health care, some Democrats are no doubt ready to move on to other issues.
Anxious to strip the bill of those elements, however — as well as pass the student loan reforms included in the reconciliation bill — it’s likely the Senate will successfully pass the 153-page measure.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid assured House Democrats that the reconciliation bill will pass with a letter from more than senators indicating they support its passage.
Before the Senate can take up the reconciliation measure, President Obama must sign the Senate bill into law.
The White House says there’s no rush for the signing ceremony to take place, CBS News White House Correspondent Peter Maer reports, but it nevertheless is expected to happen early this week.
Once the Senate takes up the reconciliation bill, Democrats will have to be very mindful of the rules.
Reconciliation is a process that allows the Senate to overcome a filibuster with just 51 votes, but it can only apply to measures that impact the federal budget — a rule known as the “Byrd rule,” named for its author, Sen. Robert Byrd (D-W.V.).
What is acceptable under the Byrd rule is decided by the Senate parliamentarian — a congressional official who acts as a sort of Senate referee.
A group of senators and staffers are expected to meet with the parliamentarian today, the Washington Post reports, to discuss certain provisions that could possibly violate reconciliation rules.
The GOP has zeroed in on the Democrats’ plan to alter the so-called “Cadillac” tax on high-end insurance plans, arguing that it would affect the Social Security trust fund — something not allowed under reconciliation rules.
Before the Senate bill passed in the House yesterday, House Minority Leader John Boehner issued a warning to House Democrats that their colleagues in the Senate had not yet discussed the Social Security trust fund issue with the parliamentarian, indicating they would not bother to pass the reconciliation bill.
“It should now be clear to House Democrats that they have no guarantees,” Boehner said in a statement.
Democratic staffers called that charge “absurd,” ABC News reports.
Some Senate Democrats said they actually tried to schedule a meeting with GOP senators and the parliamentarian for Friday, but the Republicans “boycotted” it, the Hill reports.
Reid wants to kick off 20 hours of debate over the reconciliation bill Tuesday, the Washington Post reports, assuming Mr. Obama has signed the Senate bill by then.
Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas) said on “Fox News Sunday” that the GOP plans to offer “in the order of hundreds” of amendments to the legislation.
However, if debate does indeed start Tuesday, it is likely the GOP amendments would only prolong the debate through Saturday at the latest, according to the Post.
If any amendments are passed during the Senate debate, the House would have to vote once again on the updated reconciliation package.
Given that the House has already passed the measure once, however, finding the votes for a slightly tweaked version should not be a problem for Democrats.
Of course, even after all the legislation is passed, the battle will continue.
Republicans plan on making the health reform package a campaign issue in the upcoming midterm elections, and numerous state officials are already questioning the legality of the sweeping legislative overhaul.
Three state attorneys general have indicated they will file legal challenges to the bill on the grounds that it is unconstitutional to require individuals to purchase health care, the New York Times reports.
Meanwhile, Idaho Gov. C.L. “Butch” Otter signed into law this month a measure requiring the Idaho state attorney general to sue the federal government over the health care bill.
Similar legislation is pending in as many as 37 other states.
March 22, 2010 at 3:32 pm |
http://www.hughhewitt.com/blog/g/410e3a15-2a3c-4ea2-b741-cb36e7d80f5d
Hugh Hewitt
March 22, 2010 at 3:50 pm |
All 41 Senate Repubs have pledged to unfix as many of the “fixes” as they can.
IMHO, this is where our focus should be right now.
March 22, 2010 at 3:56 pm |
Senate Staff to Huddle with Parliamentarian at Noon on Reconciliation
http://www.rollcall.com/news/44507-1.html
Senate Republicans intend to argue to Parliamentarian Alan Frumin that at least one provision of the reconciliation bill violates Section 310g of the Budget Act and should result in the entire package losing its reconciliation status.
Senate Democrats, who declined to comment on the meeting, will argue the opposite.
After considering both sides, Frumin is expected to rule, although the timing is unclear.
Section 310g prevents reconciliation legislation from affecting Social Security;
the GOP plans to argue that a provision in the bill dealing with the excise tax on expensive “Cadillac” insurance plans affects the entitlement program.
Meanwhile, Republican Senate staff is expected to make additional arguments, including that various provisions of the reconciliation package violate the so-called Byrd rule and should be stripped from the bill.
Any change to the reconciliation package in the Senate would require that it be sent back to the House for a revote.
Should the bill lose its reconciliation protections, it would be subject to a filibuster and no longer be able to pass with just 51 votes.
The Democrats would need to muster 60 votes to overturn any budget point of order upheld by the Parliamentarian, a difficult threshold to meet given that the Senate GOP Conference has already pledged to remain united on budget points of order.
David M. Drucker has been doing some really good reporting on this.
March 22, 2010 at 4:03 pm |
Will Republicans Really Stand In Front of the Reconciliation Sidecar?
You betcha!
Highly doubtful senate repubs will be able to quash the entire sidecar, but I predict changes, so house dems will have to pony up once more.
As I said, pls don’t do them any favors, EVEN IF any of the fixes would actually improve the underlying bill.
March 22, 2010 at 4:06 pm |
MUST READ: Reconciliation – Your Guide to the Game
http://congress.blogs.foxnews.com/2010/03/22/must-read-reconciliation-your-guide-to-the-game/
2. SOCIAL SECURITY AFFECT – A “310(g)” POINT OF ODER
Republicans have said they have found at least one instance that violates this point of order: the excise, or “Cadillac tax”.
This section of the Budget Act (310g) says no reconciliation bill may make recommendations to Social Security.
The “Cadillac tax”, according to Republicans, places a tax on high-cost insurance policies, which will then lead companies to buy cheaper policies, thereby resulting in increased salaries, which has an affect on Social Security revenues.
**This is a “trickle down” affect on Social Security.**
Democrats say they infuse the Social Security trust fund w/ more money. It is held harmless, so no point of order should lie against it. Republicans say that fact bears no point in the ruling.
**This should be a rough ruling for Frumin.**
This is an AXE point of order– if Frumin rules in favor of Rs, the bill is, essentially, torpedoed. It is sent back to committee (the Senate Finance Committee in this case), and the reconciliation protections are stripped from the bill.
March 22, 2010 at 4:07 pm |
Geez Louise
AFFECT is a verb!
EFFECT is a noun!
March 22, 2010 at 4:13 pm |
http://minx.cc/?post=299689
Honestly, I’m not really all that surprised that Stupak sold out. I’m just amazed that his price was so low.
March 22, 2010 at 4:17 pm |
/us-rep-bart-stupak-d-mi-i-voted-for-the-unborn-before-i-voted-against-them/
US REP Bart Stupak voted for the unborn before he sold his soul to the devil and voted against them.
***
Expect more like this.
March 22, 2010 at 4:21 pm |
Rasmussen Obama Approval
47% — 53%
Expect a bump and then back down, again.
March 22, 2010 at 4:23 pm |
RT @TonyFratto: Pelosi will use 1965 “Medicare” gavel today – right choice when creating new fiscally unsustainable entitlement programs.
March 22, 2010 at 4:33 pm |
James Pethokoukis — VAT ATTACK!
Paul Ryan’s budget roadmap is flummoxing Washington
http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2010/03/10/paul-ryans-budget-roadmap-is-flummoxing-washington/
(I heard Krauthammer say last night that a VAT (value-added tax) is headed our way.)
March 22, 2010 at 4:39 pm |
An interview with Rep. Paul Ryan
http://blogs.reuters.com/james-pethokoukis/2009/12/15/an-interview-with-rep-paul-ryan/
Value-added Tax
The VAT is coming. They just know they can’t do it before the election.
My fear is that the credit markets blow up on us again, we’ll get some shot across the bow by the bond market one of these days.
And if the Democrats are still in power, that will bring us the VAT.
They will say they have no choice but to do it to save the creditworthiness of the government.
It will kind of be like another TARP weekend where the Treasury Secretary and the Fed chairman come to Capitol Hill hyperventilating and out of that comes a VAT.
Our government is premeditating a moment like that.
*** But there is another way ***
with real entitlement reform, real tax reform, fulfilling health and retirement security but also paying off our debts and making our economy really competitive.
March 22, 2010 at 4:40 pm |
http://www.youtube.com/user/RepPaulRyan#p/u
March 22, 2010 at 4:41 pm |
Paul Ryan on the steep climb to reclaim the American Idea
March 22, 2010 at 4:52 pm |
McCain: Don’t expect GOP cooperation the rest of this year
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/88285-mccain-dont-expect-gop-cooperation-the-rest-of-this-year
Some GOP members said the character of the Senate had changed by virtue of the process used on the health bill.
“In my opinion, the institution of the Congress has been fundamentally harmed,”
Sen. Judd Gregg (R-N.H.), pointing to the process Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) used to craft the final health bill.
Still, Gregg acknowledged that voters’ concerns about the health bill and the processes used to pass it might have abated by November.
“There will be other events in this nation which captures the attention of the American people,” he said Monday during an appearance on CNBC.
“So it’s very possible that people will not be as focused on this by next November.”
(We shall see.)
March 22, 2010 at 4:55 pm |
Video
http://tpmlivewire.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/03/gregg-senate-gopers-will-do-our-best-to-fix-bad-health-care-bill.php
Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) told Fox News today that Senate Republicans would offer amendments to the health care bill passed in the House, to “try and make it a better bill, to the extent you can.”
Gregg said the bill would also face procedural challenges.
“Hopefully, down the road, we can get back to functioning as a Congress as versus an autocracy,” Gregg added.
March 22, 2010 at 4:57 pm |
Limbaugh, then Hannity
http://gateway.andohs.net/player/?sid=826&nid=2920
March 22, 2010 at 5:15 pm |
Haven’t listened yet, so I can’t recommend, but might be worth a listen.
Unorthodox ufologist Norio Hayakawa presented his views and research on UFOs, clandestine government activities, and the mysterious Dulce, New Mexico area, rumored to house an underground base.
March 22, 2010 at 5:16 pm |
More Like This:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_filter=0&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&suggested_categories=27&search_query=TheHaunebub+03-16-10
March 22, 2010 at 5:36 pm |
Sunday, March 21, 2010
I highly recommend Dr.Jacques Vallee’s 5 most important propositions on the UFO phenomenon
http://noriohayakawa2012.blogspot.com/2010/03/i-highly-recommend-jacques-vallees-5.html
March 22, 2010 at 5:37 pm |
March 22, 2010 at 6:02 pm |
The late Bill Uhouse was a specialist project engineer in Underground base Alien.
March 22, 2010 at 6:08 pm |
Capt. Bill Uhouse is former US Marine Corps, USAF and aerospace engineer.
He participated in meetings where an extraterrestrial would enter and give advice on advanced engineering problems:
“We had meetings and I ended up in a meeting with an alien. I called him J-Rod – of course, that’s what they called him…. The alien used to come in with [Dr Edward] Teller and some of the other guys, occasionally to handle questions that maybe we’d have. You know? But you have to understand that everything was specific to the group. If it wasn’t specific to the group, you couldn’t talk about it. It was on need-to-know basis.
And [the ET] he’d talk. He would talk, but he’d sound just like as if you spoke – he’d sound just like as if you spoke… The preparation we had before meeting this alien was, basically, going through all of the different nationalities in the world…. So basically, the alien was only giving engineering advice and science advice… Sometimes you’d get into a spot where you [would] try and try and try, and it wouldn’t work. And that’s where he’d [the alien] come in.
They would tell him to look at this and see what we did wrong.”
“Testimony of Captain Bill Uhouse,” Disclosure, Stephen Greer – 2001, 386-87
March 22, 2010 at 6:13 pm |
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/disclosure/briefing/disclosure12.htm
Testimony of Captain Bill Uhouse, USMC (ret.)
October 2000
Bill Uhouse served 10 years in the Marine Corps as a fighter pilot, and four years with the Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB as a civilian doing flight-testing of exotic experimental aircraft. Later, for the next 30 years, he worked for defense contractors as an engineer of antigravity propulsion systems: on flight simulators for exotic aircraft — and on actual flying discs. He testifies that that the first disc they tested was the re-engineered ET craft that crashed in Kingman, Arizona in 1958. He further testifies that the ET’s presented a craft to the US government; this craft was taken to Area 51, which was just being constructed at the time, and the four ET’s that accompanied the craft were taken to Los Alamos. Mr. Uhouse’s specialty was the flight deck and the instruments on the flight deck — he understood the gravitational field and what it took to get people trained to experience antigravity. He actually met several times with an ET that helped the physicists and engineers with the engineering of the craft.
I spent 10 years in the Marine Corps, and four years working with the Air Force as a civilian doing experimental testing on aircraft since my Marine Corps days. I was a pilot in the service, and a fighter pilot; [I] fought in … after the latter part of WWII and the Korean War Conflict, I was discharged as a Captain in the Marine Corps.
I didn’t start working on flight simulators until about – well the year was 1954, in September. After I got out of the Marine Corps, I took a job with the Air Force at Wright Patterson doing experimental flight-testing on various different modifications of aircraft.
While I was at Wright Patterson, I was approached by an individual who — and I’m not going to mention his name — [wanted] to determine if I wanted to work in an area on new creative devices. Okay? And, that was a flying disc simulator. What they had done: they had selected several of us, and they reassigned me to A-Link Aviation, which was a simulator manufacturer. At that time they were building what they called the C-11B, and F-102 simulator, B-47 simulator, and so forth. They wanted us to get experienced before we actually started work on the flying disc simulator, which I spent 30-some years working on.
I don’t think any flying disc simulators went into operation until the early 1960s — around 1962 or 1963. The reason why I am saying this is because the simulator wasn’t actually functional until around 1958. The simulator that they used was for the extraterrestrial craft they had, which is a 30-meter one that crashed in Kingman, Arizona, back in 1953 or 1952. That’s the first one that they took out to the test flight.
This ET craft was a controlled craft that the aliens wanted to present to our government — the U.S.A. It landed about 15 miles from what used to be an army airbase, which is now a defunct army base. But that particular craft, there were some problems with: number one – getting it on the flatbed to take it up to Area 51. They couldn’t get it across the dam because of the road. It had to be barged across the Colorado River at the time, and then taken up Route 93 out to Area 51, which was just being constructed at the time. There were four aliens aboard that thing, and those aliens went to Los Alamos for testing. They set up Los Alamos with a particular area for those guys, and they put certain people in there with them — people that were astrophysicists and general scientists — to ask them questions. The way the story was told to me was: there was only one alien that would talk to any of these scientists that they put in the lab with them. The rest wouldn’t talk to anybody, or even have a conversation with them. You know, first they thought it was all ESP or telepathy, but you know, most of that is kind of a joke to me, because they actually speak — maybe not like we do — but they actually speak and converse. But there was only one who would [at Los Alamos].
The difference between this disc, and other discs that they had looked at was that this one was a much simpler design.
The disc simulator didn’t have a reactor, [but] we had a space in it that looked like the reactor that wasn’t the device we operated the simulator with. We operated it with six large capacitors that were charged with a million volts each, so there were six million volts in those capacitors. They were the largest capacitors ever built. These particular capacitors, they’d last for 30 minutes, so you could get in there and actually work the controls and do what you had to — to get the simulator, the disc to operate.
So, it wasn’t that simple, because we only had 30 minutes. Okay? But, in the simulator you’ll notice that there are no seat belts. Right? It was the same thing with the actual craft — no seat belts. You don’t need seat belts, because when you fly one of these things upside down, there is no upside down like in a regular aircraft — you just don’t feel it. There’s a simple explanation for that: you have your own gravitational field right inside the craft, so if you are flying upside down — to you — you are right side up. I mean, it’s just really simple, if people would look at it. I was inside the actual alien craft for a start-up…
There weren’t any windows. The only way we had any visibility at all was done with cameras or video-type devices. [See the testimony of Mark McClandlish. SG] My specialty was the flight deck and the instruments on the flight deck. I knew about the gravitational field and what it took to get people trained.
Because the disc has its own gravitational field, you would be sick or disoriented for about two minutes after getting in, after it was cranked up. It takes a lot of time to become used to it. Because of the area and the smallness of it, just to raise your hand becomes complicated. You have to be trained — trained with your mind, to accept what you are going to actually feel and experience.
Just moving about is difficult, but after a while you get used to it and you do it — it’s simple. You just have to know where everything is, and you [have] to understand what’s going to happen to your body. It’s no different than accepting the g-forces when you are flying an aircraft or coming out of a dive. It’s a whole new ball game.
Each engineer that had anything to do with the design was part of the start-up crew. We would have to verify all the equipment that we put in — be sure it [worked] like it [was] supposed to, etc.
I’m sure our crews have taken these craft out into space. I’m saying it probably took a while to train enough of the people, over a sufficient time period. The whole problem with the disc is that it is so exacting in its design and so forth. It can’t be used like we use aircraft today, with dropping bombs and having machine guns in the wings.
The design is so exacting, that you can’t add anything — it’s got to be just right. There’s a big problem in the design of where things are put. Say, where the center of the aircraft is, and that type of thing. Even the fact that we raised it three feet so the taller guys could get in — the actual ship was extended back to its original configuration, but it has to be raised.
We had meetings, and I ended up in a meeting with an alien. I called him J-ROD — of course, that’s what they called him. I don’t know if that was his real name or not, but that’s the name the linguist gave him. I did draw a sketch, before I left, of him in a meeting. I provided it to some people and that was my impression of what I saw.
The alien used to come in with [Dr. Edward] Teller and some of the other guys, occasionally, to handle questions that maybe we’d have. You know? But you have to understand that everything was specific to the group. If it wasn’t specific to the group, you couldn’t talk about it. It was on a need-to-know basis. And [the ET] he’d talk. He would talk, but he’d sound just like as if you spoke — he’d sound like you. You know, he’s like a parrot, but he’d try and answer your question. A lot of times he’d have a hard time understanding, because if you didn’t put it on paper and explain yourself, half the time he couldn’t give you a good answer.
The preparation we had before meeting this alien was, basically, going through all of the different nationalities in the world. Then they got into going into other forms of life, even down to animals and that type of thing. And…this J-ROD — his skin was pinkish, but a little bit rough — that kind of stuff; not horrible-looking, you know — or to me, he wasn’t horrible-looking.
Some of the guys who were in the particular group that I was in — they never even made it. You know, when they gave you the psychological questions, I just answered them the way I felt and I had no problem. That’s what they wanted to know — if you’d become upset — but it never bothered me. It didn’t amount to much.
So basically, the alien was only giving engineering advice and science advice. For example, I performed the calculations but needed more help…I spoke of a book that — well it’s not a book; it’s a big assembly with various divisions dealing with gravitational technology, and the key elements are in there, but all the information wasn’t there. Even our top mathematicians couldn’t figure some of this stuff out, so the alien would assist.
Sometimes you’d get into a spot where you [would] try and try and try, and it wouldn’t work. And that’s when he’d [the alien] come in. They would tell him to look at this and see what we did wrong.
Over the last 40 years or so, not counting the simulators — I’m talking about actual craft — there are probably two or three-dozen, and various sizes that we built.
I don’t know much about the [ET] ones that they brought here. I know about that one [craft] out of Kingman but that’s about it. And, I know the company that hauled it out of there — who is out here now — but… But, there’s one that operates with certain chemicals.
I think these triangles that people are seeing are two or three 30-meter craft, that are in the center of it [the triangle]. And, the outside perimeter — well you could put anything you want, as long as these particular ones meet the design criteria, and they’ll operate.
You know, there were certain reasons for the secrecy. I could understand that; it was no different than the first atomic bomb that they built. But they are getting so far ahead now with aircraft design. And, like I told you gentlemen earlier — that by 2003, most of this stuff will be out for everybody to look at. Maybe not the way that everybody expects it, but in some manner they determine…appropriate to show everybody. You know, a big surprise.
The reason why I said that is because the document I signed ends in 2003 and I’m not the only one who signed those.
But, that gravitational manual — if you ever get one of these volumes of documents, you’d be on top of the world. You’d know everything.
[See the testimony of Mark McCandlish that verifies human-made antigravity craft and also the use of cameras instead of windows for imaging. SG]
March 22, 2010 at 6:15 pm |
March 22, 2010
http://www.4shared.com/play/10329682/efdae9dd/sharing.html
You can click on green arrow at end of each line, I mean if you choose to.
March 22, 2010 at 7:42 pm |
McCain vows Republicans will repeal Health bill
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/17320/20100322/mccain-vows-republicans-will-repeal-health-bill.htm
March 22, 2010 at 7:47 pm |
George Stephanopoulos Argues With McCain on Health Care: ‘What Would You Say’ to Ted Kennedy?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/scott-whitlock/2010/03/22/george-stephanopoulos-argues-mccain-health-care-what-would-you-say-t
STEPHANOPOULOS: But will you also move to challenge the constitutionality of this bill?
I’ve heard many calls from Republicans about that as well.
MCCAIN: Sure. We’ll challenge it every place we can.
*** Including the effect on Social Security that this legislation has, which we think is directly violating the reconciliation rules regarding social security. ***
Listen, we’ll fight everywhere.
I was at a town hall meeting in Arizona on Saturday.
I didn’t find anybody that liked this bill.
The American people don’t like it.
And they are going to be heard, one way or the other.
(Now that’s the John McCain I know and love!)
March 22, 2010 at 7:52 pm |
Senate Parliamentarian Set To Rule As Debate Shifts To Upper Chamber
http://www.kaiserhealthnews.org/Daily-Reports/2010/March/22/Parliamentarian.aspx
CQ: “Should he find in favor of the Republican challenge, however, the entire reconciliation bill could be thrown out. …
The Congressional Budget Office had found that the original Senate health bill, which would tax high-cost employer-sponsored plans, would result in some employers reducing the cost of their workers’ insurance and paying them higher wages instead.
That would result in workers paying higher Social Security taxes, which CBO said would add about $53 billion to Social Security’s trust funds over the next decade.
” After the reconciliation bill’s delay of the excise tax to 2018, however, about $23 billion less would go into Social Security’s trust funds, the CBO said.
“The question is whether those budget effects amount to a ‘recommendation’ regarding Social Security” (Wayne, 3/22).
***
“a recommendation regarding Social Security”
I wonder when this will be decided.
Surely there will at least be some changes.
Then back to the House.
March 22, 2010 at 7:55 pm |
I don’t want those 219 House Dems to be able to run away from the fact that they passed the Senate bill, especially Stupak.
March 22, 2010 at 8:04 pm |
The least that I can do for you is what you did for me
And give you some of your own medicine
http://www.4shared.com/file/240606494/5ccded21/06_Cheaters_Dont_Win.html
March 22, 2010 at 11:32 pm |
Senate Republicans Prepare for Last-Ditch Derailing Effort
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704117304575138213545656030.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_LEFTTopStories
The greatest danger for Democrats is that Republicans will persuade Mr. Frumin the bill improperly affects the Social Security Trust Fund, which would be barred under one key rule governing reconciliation.
It’s the only violation that could result in a disqualification of the whole bill, rather than a loss of certain provisions.
The Republicans argument is indirect.
The health overhaul taxes high-value insurance plans.
As a result, some companies might cut back on workers’ health insurance plans and pay higher wages instead.
If that happens, workers’ taxable income would rise, and they would pay more in Social Security taxes.
The package of fixes, by narrowing the tax and delaying it from 2013 to 2018, would reduce the additional Social Security tax payments.
Republicans say that makes it ineligible for reconciliation.
Democrats say the impact on Social Security is far too indirect to matter.
“There is no change in [Social Security] law occurring here,” said Sen. Kent Conrad (D., N.D.).
Republicans acknowledge there is no way to know if they will prevail on that issue.
“This is uncharted territory,” said Sen. Judd Gregg (R., N.H.).
Democrats do agree that Republicans could succeed on some their other points of order, however, and that a few of the bill’s provisions could be struck.
If that happens, the House would have to vote again on the bill to approve it in its changed form.
Democrats say that would not be a problem.
“We have tried to avoid that situation by carefully going through the bill ahead of time and taking out major portions,” said Sen. Richard Durbin (D., Ill.).
“We’ve tried our best.
If something comes up that we didn’t know about, we’ll have to face it.”
Write to Naftali Bendavid at naftali.bendavid@wsj.com
***
This is in reference to reconciliation bill only, not the underlying bill.
As far as the underlying bill, the strategy is to repeal and replace.
Or at least to repeal parts of it.
March 22, 2010 at 11:40 pm |
Ryan on Health Care: “Change It, Repeal It, Replace It”
http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/88825322.html
“Change it, repeal it and replace it with a system that works, that’s consumer-driven, patient-centered and not a government-takeover or government-run system,” Ryan told Newsradio 620 WTMJ’s Charlie Sykes.
“We have to regroup. Obviously, we really don’t like this law. It takes a long time to phase in.”
According to Ryan, what will phase in immediately?
“Tax increases on capital and labor, medicare cuts start kicking in on providers, so medicare providers are going to get hit.
Those start right now.
The actuaries tell us one out of five providers will probably go out of business or just stop taking medicare patients.”
Ryan said that the Democrats did not have enough votes to pass the bill as of 4:00 p.m. Sunday.
Things shifted when Democrat Bart Stupak and others who were with him decided to vote for the bill.
They’d been against it because of it’s funding structure for abortions.
Ryan says he wasn’t expecting the flip-flop.
“That’s what surprises me.
I’ve heard talking to him for weeks about this. He really is pro life.
He fell for this. That’s what really sort of shocks us.”
President Obama got Stupak’s group to his side by promising to issue an executive order banning government dollars from funding abortion.
March 22, 2010 at 11:44 pm |
Holy Cow!
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ODFmMTUxNjlhYTc0NmIwM2Y0ZTgyZDZjYzBmZGFkNjE=
The horrendous reconciliation bill that House Democrats voted to tack onto the horrendous health-care bill they passed yesterday would raise taxes even higher, spend even more money, and further penalize employers.
But among the reasons House Democrats offered for voting for it was that it would eliminate (or rather, to make available to everyone) the “Cornhusker Kickback”—the special benefit given to Nebraska in the Senate bill, allowing that state to have its new Medicaid costs paid for entirely by the federal government (i.e, you and me.)
That kickback was of course offered as an enticement to win the vote of Senator Ben Nelson, and to help him forget about his pro-life principles.
Well lo and behold, Nelson has now announced that he opposes the reconciliation bill and will vote against it.
Apparently it taxes and spends too much.
It really renews your faith in politicians, doesn’t it?
March 22, 2010 at 11:47 pm |
Ben Nelson opposes reconciliation health bill
http://journalstar.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/article_e4da83dc-360a-11df-bdb6-001cc4c03286.html
In a written statement, Nelson repeated his support for the Senate health care reform bill that also was passed by the House on Sunday night. It will be signed into law by President Barack Obama on Tuesday.
“Congress has given a green light to much-needed private insurance reforms without a government takeover of health care,” Nebraska’s Democratic senator said.
“As a result, Nebraskans will see lower health care costs, better quality care and a greater peace of mind that a major illness or injury won’t bankrupt them.”
The reconciliation bill makes changes to the Senate measure and adds provisions that transform a dual system of government and private sector college student loans into a unitary direct government loan system.
That proposal never has been debated in the Senate, Nelson said, and “would result in a government takeover of student lending.”
Ending private sector student loans “would disrupt a relationship many Nebraska colleges tell me they prefer because private lenders provide their students with personal service, tailored loan packages and on-campus support,” Nelson said.
Nelnet, headquartered in Lincoln, was one of the nation’s major private lenders, but the company has reinvented itself and now is a major national processor of government loans.
The reconciliation bill also “imposes a troubling new payroll tax on unearned income,” Nelson said.
“These and other alterations push the total cost of health reform up billions of dollars,” he said.
Reach Don Walton at 473-7248 or dwalton@journalstar.com.
March 22, 2010 at 11:53 pm |
I wonder if Reid even has 50 votes for reconciliation.
59 – 10 = 49
Reid can’t afford to lose 10.
I wonder how many have gone on record saying NO to reconciliation.
March 23, 2010 at 12:02 am |
Reid says he’s got 52 names.
March 23, 2010 at 12:16 am |
“something up his sleeve” ?
Gregg is not seeking reelection, and this will probably be his last big moment in the spotlight. He says he wants to make a bad bill better. He and others senators are expected to offer a slew of amendments, some of which will be politically popular and difficult to vote against.
Unlike on cloture proceedings, senators don’t have to file their amendments in the reconciliation process.
That means Republicans can put Democrats, particularly politically vulnerable ones, on the spot.
Democratic leaders have urged their colleagues to stick together and reject GOP amendments that would hamper instead of help the healthcare reform effort.
Still, the votes could be fodder for campaign ads this fall.
While Senate Democrats are ecstatic that the House has passed its healthcare reform bill, they have long been wary of using the reconciliation process.
Some fear that Gregg has something up his sleeve. The senator will be one to watch this week.
The Hill
March 23, 2010 at 1:02 am |
http://rosettasister.wordpress.com/2010/03/21/let-freedom-ring/
Troy Says:
March 22, 2010 at 7:36 pm
Web sites implying that they will resort to civil disobedience, presumably by refusing to obey the individual mandate and purchase healthcare insurance.
*********
I told y’all a while back that I plan on and hope to be the first in Texas to be arrested for refusing the mandate….As my older brother used to say, “Fuck ‘em and feed ‘em fish heads!”
***
I almost hope this happens, just so I can visit Troy in jail.
I wish I had all the answers, but I don’t.
wouldn’t a citizens’ jury like Tenacity spoke of come in handy fighting this?
(not sure if I’ve got that right)
also, I’ve read they have a “soft” individual mandate in MA
not sure what that means
March 23, 2010 at 1:08 am |
Favorite Album Sides (cont’d.)
3 + 3 (Produced by The Isley Brothers) [T-Neck Records 1973]
A1|That Lady|5:35
A2|Don’t Let Me Be Lonely Tonight|3:59
A3|If You Were There|3:23
A4|You Walk Your Way|3:06
A5|Listen to the Music|4:06
B1|What It Comes Down To|3:54
B2|Sunshine (Go Away Today)|4:22
B3|Summer Breeze|6:12
B4|The Highways of My Life|4:53
http://www.4shared.com/file/247142345/396b8ade/06_What_It_Comes_Down_To.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247142583/78301c55/07_Sunshine__Go_Away_Today_.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247143439/c26f21d2/08_Summer_Breeze.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247144330/232bb74a/09_The_Highways_Of_My_Life.html
March 23, 2010 at 6:24 am |
Ah Rosa, Congress got to play g-d and the sheep were shorn against their will. It’s been that way for over 5000 years now. The leadership model is skewed. Genghis Khans and little Constantine’s and Constantine-ettes.
Personally, I blame it on a bronze age solar god cult that ended the last matrilineal tribe about 1600 BC. although the wandering warmongers by then had already done a lot of damage elsewhere.
Still, if we resist, and take the country back to basics, we might avoid
the oncoming neobyzantinium age of serfdom that lies ahead.
I actually think we can, if enough people wake up to the corporate fascism
we are witnessing spurred on by the Democrats.
March 23, 2010 at 6:44 am |
I forgot to press the followup button. just did Rosa.
We are going to turn it around.
So far “Fire Nancy Pelosi” has raised twice as much as they asked for…
you can google it.
March 23, 2010 at 3:01 pm |
“the oncoming neobyzantinium age of serfdom”
what a great phrase! I like that one!
song, I’m torn.
I could support this legislation if it weren’t fiscally irresponsible.
The left is hell bent on emasculating America.
Except for the individual mandate.
I’m doing some real soul searching on that one.
It rubs me the wrong way and yet I know it’s necessary to achieve anything remotely approaching universal coverage.
Is there a happy medium? I don’t know.
But I really do want to visit Troy in jail!
hehe
March 23, 2010 at 3:06 pm |
Unhappy?
Over five thousand years ago, Moses said to the children of Israel ” pick
up your shovel, mount your asses and camels, and I will lead you to the
promised land”.
Nearly 75 years ago, Roosevelt said, “Lay down your shovels, sit on your asses, and light up a camel, this is the promised land”.
Now Obama has stolen your shovel, taxed your asses, raised the price of camels, and mortgaged the promised land!
I was so depressed last night thinking about Health Care Plans, the
economy, the wars, lost jobs, savings, Social Security, retirement funds, etc. so I called Lifeline, the suicide help line. Got a call center in Pakistan . I told them I was suicidal.
They all got excited and asked if I could drive a truck…
(To cheer you)
March 23, 2010 at 3:12 pm |
Overhaul Becoming Law, But Senate Work Remains
http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2010/03/overhaul_becomes_law_but_senat.html
Even though the Democrats will use the budget reconciliation route to prevent Republicans from filibustering, the GOP has plenty of fight left.
The Senate will debate the package (for as long as 20 hours), and Republicans are expected to mount attacks in the form of proposed changes.
Lots of them.
“We’ll offer amendments to try to improve on things like eliminating the individual mandate,” Sen. Judd Gregg of New Hampshire said on Tuesday’s Morning Edition.
March 23, 2010 at 3:21 pm |
Sen. Gregg: GOP Has Ideas For Senate Health Bill
http://www.wbur.org/npr/125048981
The ranking Republican on the Senate Budget Committee said Tuesday that parts of the health care overhaul bill are likely to be popular with the public, but the measure could hurt many Americans.
“There are some parts that they should like, which would have been in a bipartisan bill,” Sen. Judd Gregg (R-NH) told NPR’s Linda Wertheimer.
“But what they’re not going to like, I don’t think, is this massive expansion of the size of government.”
Gregg said the bill that President Obama will sign into law Tuesday puts pressure on small businesses, on people who have health care through their employers, and on Medicare recipients.
“This bill moves us significantly down the road toward a European style of government,” he said.
Gregg rejected claims that the GOP gave up its ability to influence policy by uniting against the health care bill, which the party criticized heavily.
“We weren’t allowed to be part of the process,” he said.
Once Obama signs into law the bill that the House passed Sunday, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) will introduce a package of changes under special budget rules called reconciliation.
Gregg said the reconciliation bill has “some very significant policy issues in it and should be adjusted.”
He said the GOP will offer “constructive amendments” on the measure.
“We’ll offer amendments to try to improve on things like
eliminating the individual mandate, or
addressing the issue of tax policy, or
getting proposals which cause us to look at delivery of quality and value rather than quantity and repetition,” Gregg said.
March 23, 2010 at 3:27 pm |
Video
Judd Gregg
Senate showdown over health bill
http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/senate-showdown-over-health-bill/6wtqcnr
March 23, 2010 at 3:35 pm |
GOP looks to ‘repeal and replace’ strategy on healthcare
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/88507-gop-looks-to-repeal-and-replace-strategy-on-healthcare
Republicans won’t just repeal healthcare legislation to replace it with nothing, a top House Republican said Tuesday.
House Republican Conference Chairman Mike Pence (R-Ind.) said that while the GOP is dedicated to push for repealing healthcare legislation to be signed into law today by President Barack Obama, they would seek to replace it with their own reforms.
“I think House Republicans are determined to stand for both repealing and replacing Obamacare with an approach that gives Americans more choices instead of more government,” Pence said in a news conference on Capitol Hill.
“We’re talking about ‘repeal and replace,'” Pence said.
“Don’t leave out my ‘and.'”
House and Senate Republicans quickly introduced bills to repeal the healthcare reform package Democrats passed through the House on Sunday, sending it to the White House for the president’s signature.
March 23, 2010 at 3:41 pm |
“Joe, how do you run against this?” (Let me count the ways.)
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/healthcare/88529-how-do-you-run-against-this
The answer is simple.
You run against everything that has happened thus far.
You run against the trillion dollars of tax increases, especially the tax increases on the health insurance of hardworking union people.
You run against the premium increases that will hit most Americans who have health insurance.
You run against the elimination of the Medicare Advantage program.
You run against the individual mandate.
And you run against the complete government takeover of the student loan industry.
If you or your kid needs a loan to pay the exorbitant college tuition prices, you now only have one choice: the federal government.
So if you can’t get a student loan, you know whom to blame: the Democrats.
And this is all part of a bigger narrative.
You run against a federal government that is out of control.
(Continue reading at link. And pass it around!)
March 23, 2010 at 3:54 pm |
MARK SHURTLEFF, ATTORNEY GENERAL, UTAH
“It’s about our duty as Republican attorneys generals of the states to protect states rights and individual rights and we’re doing it that reason and that reason alone.”
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100007219&docId=l:1149506439&isRss=true
EXCERPT
COOPER: “The New York Times” reported a little while ago, that and I quote, that “states where the Constitutional Amendment has been introduced are also places where the health care industry has spent heavily on political contributions.” That basically, essentially saying that you and other attorneys generals have gotten thousands of dollars in contributions from the industry.
A, is that the case and do you think, if so, that poses any kind of conflict?
SHURTLEFF: Well, I can’t speak for all the AGs, that isn’t the big part of my contributions. In fact, I’ve sued health care providers, pharmaceutical companies. In this case, the discussion is not political; it’s about making sure the process is followed.
And who —
COOPER: You’re really saying this is not political?
SHURTLEFF: No.
COOPER: I mean there are not a lot of Democratic attorney generals or governors signing on to this though.
SHURTLEFF: No, did I and other Republican AGs, sue a Republican administrations when we felt like they were encroaching on state’s rights, absolutely. And in this case there will be extreme political pressure frankly, brought on Democratic AGs. And there will be some courageous ones who will step up and say this isn’t about politics. It’s about our duty as Republican attorneys generals of the states to protect states rights and individual rights and we’re doing it that reason and that reason alone.
COOPER: Attorney General Mark Shurtleff, I appreciate you being on the program. I like to talk to you again.
SHURTLEFF: Thanks Anderson.
COOPER: Thank you very much sir.
SHURTLEFF: You bet.
March 23, 2010 at 3:58 pm |
March 23, 2010 at 4:01 pm |
Texas Attorney General Among Dozens To File Healthcare Lawsuit
http://www.kfoxtv.com/news/22918689/detail.html
March 23, 2010 at 4:11 pm |
Rasmussen: 49% want states to sue to stop ObamaCare
Remind me again how the success of passing ObamaCare is supposed to help Democrats in the midterms. Americans want tort reform, but ObamaCare has them so angry that they want states to sue to block it. Only 37% oppose the idea, according to Rasmussen:
Hot air
49 — 37
(So does that mean 49% of Americans are racist assholes?! -sarc)
March 23, 2010 at 4:23 pm |
“a declaratory judgment”
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2219776820100322
Eleven of the attorneys general plan to band together in a collective lawsuit on behalf of Alabama, Florida, Michigan, Nebraska, North Dakota, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, South Dakota, Texas, Utah and Washington.
Utah Attorney General Mark Shurtleff told Reuters the lawsuit will probably be filed in U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Florida.
The case could be decided relatively quickly at the trial-court level since the question is mainly one of law, according to South Carolina Attorney General Henry McMaster, who said appeals and a U.S. Supreme Court ruling were likely in the lawsuit that seeks a declaratory judgment against the reforms.
“You won’t need to call expert witnesses or file a lot of briefs,” McMaster said. “This is a matter of law, not policy.”
March 23, 2010 at 4:40 pm |
Rasmussen Obama Approval
48% — 52%
March 23, 2010 at 4:44 pm |
March 23, 2010
Limbaugh, then Hannity
http://gateway.andohs.net/player/?sid=826&nid=2920
March 23, 2010 at 4:58 pm |
A Lot of Americans Losing Sleep
Paul Ryan will push ‘repeal and replace’
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0310/34866.html
“You have a [presidential] bully pulpit that heretofore could kind of concentrate and control the media,” he explained.
“This bully pulpit it not as singularly effective, because of all the new media that’s out there.
“So when I get demagogued by the president and the Democrats, … I have avenues where I can get the truth out about this plan.
The point I’m trying to make is when people find the facts, they know there’s something wrong, they know debt’s getting out of control and they know we’ve got to do something to fix it.”
“I don’t care if I lose this job for trying to do what I think is right,” he added.
“The way I look at this is: Every term you should act like it’s your last term.
And what matters to me is that you sleep well at night.”
The congressman paused and grimaced.
“OK,” he said. “Last night I didn’t sleep very well because of this health-care bill.”
March 23, 2010 at 5:01 pm |
“fiscal Frankenstein”
On Tuesday, Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) referred to the health reform bill as a “fiscal Frankenstein” that will “make insurance more expensive.”
According to Politico, Ryan plans to push for repeal of the legislation.
March 23, 2010 at 5:13 pm |
“… so paternalistic and so arrogant, it’s condescending, and it tramples upon the principles that have made America so exceptional.”
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_032210/content/01125115.guest.html
RUSH: I’ll tell you what. I want you to listen to something.
Paul Ryan, who is quickly becoming a voice to be heard and listened to in the Republican Party, gave a speech last night on the floor.
He expresses it well.
If you’re looking for somebody that has your conscience, it’s Paul Ryan.
He’s from Wisconsin.
Here’s what he said.
RYAN: This is history. Today marks a major turning point.
Our Founders got it right when they wrote in the Declaration of Independence that our rights come from nature and nature’s God, not from government.
Should we now subscribe to an ideology where government creates rights, is solely responsible for delivering these artificial rights, and then rations these rights?
Do we believe that the goal of government is to promote equal opportunity for all Americans to make the most of their lives, or do we now believe that government’s role is to equalize the results of people’s lives?
The philosophy advanced on this floor by this majority today is so paternalistic and so arrogant, it’s condescending, and it tramples upon the principles that have made America so exceptional.
My friends, we are fast approaching a tipping point where more Americans depend upon the federal government than upon themselves for their livelihoods —
a point where we, the American people, trade in our commitment and our concern for our individual liberties in exchange for government benefits and dependencies.
RUSH: I think Paul Ryan is going to be one of the many leaders, people trying to stop this.
I wanted you to hear that, Laura, in case you didn’t because a lot of people feel like they’re alone today, powerless, unable to reverse this.
It’s reality.
CALLER: I feel alone, Rush. I really do, and my sanity feels like it’s just been sucked out of my head somewhere. (laughs)
(Maybe that’s because we’re all so sleep-deprived.)
March 23, 2010 at 5:17 pm |
March 23, 2010
http://www.4shared.com/play/10329682/efdae9dd/sharing.html
You can click on green arrow at end of each line, I mean if you choose to.
March 23, 2010 at 5:37 pm |
“The Future”
Give me back my broken night
my mirrored room, my secret life
it’s lonely here,
there’s no one left to torture
Give me absolute control
over every living soul
And lie beside me, baby,
that’s an order!
Give me crack and anal sex
Take the only tree that’s left
and stuff it up the hole
in your culture
Give me back the Berlin wall
give me Stalin and St Paul
I’ve seen the future, brother:
it is murder.
Things are going to slide, slide in all directions
Won’t be nothing
Nothing you can measure anymore
The blizzard, the blizzard of the world
has crossed the threshold
and it has overturned
the order of the soul
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
When they said REPENT REPENT
I wonder what they meant
You don’t know me from the wind
you never will, you never did
I’m the little jew
who wrote the Bible
I’ve seen the nations rise and fall
I’ve heard their stories, heard them all
but love’s the only engine of survival
Your servant here, he has been told
to say it clear, to say it cold:
It’s over, it ain’t going
any further
And now the wheels of heaven stop
you feel the devil’s riding crop
Get ready for the future:
it is murder
Things are going to slide …
There’ll be the breaking of the ancient
western code
Your private life will suddenly explode
There’ll be phantoms
There’ll be fires on the road
and the white man dancing
You’ll see a woman
hanging upside down
her features covered by her fallen gown
and all the lousy little poets
coming round
tryin’ to sound like Charlie Manson
and the white man dancin’
Give me back the Berlin wall
Give me Stalin and St Paul
Give me Christ
or give me Hiroshima
Destroy another fetus now
We don’t like children anyhow
I’ve seen the future, baby:
it is murder
Things are going to slide …
When they said REPENT REPENT …
March 23, 2010 at 5:44 pm |
http://www.4shared.com/file/234359923/17411185/01_The_Future.html
March 23, 2010 at 6:10 pm |
When you have loved enough, your Creator will be there with you.
“You Have Loved Enough”
I said I’d be your lover.
You laughed at what I said.
I lost my job forever.
I was counted with the dead.
I swept the marble chambers,
But you sent me down below.
You kept me from believing
Until you let me know:
That I am not the one who loves –
It’s love that seizes me.
When hatred with his package comes,
You forbid delivery.
And when the hunger for your touch
Rises from the hunger,
You whisper, “You have loved enough,
Now let me be the Lover.”
I swept the marble chambers,
But you sent me down below.
You kept me from believing
Until you let me know:
That I am not the one who loves –
It’s love that chooses me.
When hatred with his package comes,
You forbid delivery.
And when the hunger for your touch
Rises from the hunger . . .
March 23, 2010 at 6:18 pm |
http://www.4shared.com/file/247689086/1657089/08_You_Have_Loved_Enough.html
March 23, 2010 at 6:26 pm |
The senators are on the floor now.
I can’t watch anymore.
I wish them well with their endeavors.
I’ll be looking for updates.
March 23, 2010 at 6:43 pm |
Am Em
Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin
Am Em
Dance me through the panic ’til I’m gathered safely in
Am Em
Lift me like an olive branch and be my homeward dove
H7/F# Em
Dance me to the end of love
H7/F# Em
Dance me to the end of love
Oh let me see your beauty when the witnesses are gone
Let me feel you moving like they do in Babylon
Show me slowly what I only know the limits of
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the wedding now, dance me on and on
Dance me very tenderly and dance me very long
We’re both of us beneath our love, we’re both of us above
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the end of love
Dance me to the children who are asking to be born
Dance me through the curtains that our kisses have outworn
Raise a tent of shelter now, though every thread is torn
Dance me to the end of love
Am Em
Dance me to your beauty with a burning violin
Am Em
Dance me through the panic till I’m gathered safely in
Am Em
Touch me with your naked hand or touch me with your glove
H7/F# Em
Dance me to the end of love
H7/F# Em
Dance me to the end of love
H7/F# Em
Dance me to the end of love
March 23, 2010 at 6:49 pm |
Dance Me to the End of Love (Leonard Cohen)
http://www.4shared.com/file/247713238/af5c019b/Klezmer20Conservatory20Band-Da.html
March 23, 2010 at 6:59 pm |
I really do understand where the left is coming from.
They’re not evil.
They’re incapable of seeing the big picture.
Or they’re incapable of seeing something.
It’s not in them.
http://www.4shared.com/file/247729410/bf210d2d/Minnesota_Klezmer_Band-Book_Of.html
March 23, 2010 at 7:23 pm |
I think the strategy here is to just outlast us.
We can’t let that happen.
Interview: Sen. Judd Gregg leads GOP effort today to derail health-care reconciliation bill
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/economy-watch/2010/03/interview_sen_judd_gregg_leads.html
What are your realistic hopes — to derail this bill or make some noise in the November election?
I think hopefully both.
There are a lot of people very upset, very angry out there.
More importantly, they are just plain scared about what we’re passing on to our children.
Historically, you get in trouble if government spending becomes more than 20 percent of GDP.
This bill takes debt to well over 25 percent of gross domestic product.
People are asking themselves, “How can we afford that? How can our kids afford more debt?”
It creates more tax burden, makes us less competitive and reduces the standard of living to our children.
My sense is that we’re on the verge of passing on a weaker country to our children than we received and enjoyed.
We are creating massive debt and moving down the road of European-style government.
This is the fourth major nationalization issue that this government has taken.
It has expanded government dramatically into the private sector on the theory that government creates prosperity.
I believe prosperity is created by individuals.
(Amen.)
March 23, 2010 at 7:27 pm |
I mean, really, how much of this can we take before we realize.
You know, maybe electing Barack Obama wasn’t such a good idea.
Anyone who’s been following me for any length of time will recall this.
Guilt is not love.
When we base our decisions on guilt, nothing good will come of it.
March 23, 2010 at 7:31 pm |
I just love these pictures here.
March 23, 2010 at 7:37 pm |
World’s leading astrologer Michael St.Clair on Obama Ascendancy –
“Whoever is caught in the prediction of Obama being president, will now also have a certain part in the responsibility of what is about to unfold.”
March 23, 2010 at 9:09 pm |
Can it be that there are only two hits for this?
“Whoever is caught in the prediction of Obama being”
http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?p=77100
Michael St. Clair doesn’t like me. And the feeling is mutual.
But I don’t doubt for a moment that he’s spot on on many a topic.
The scary part.
I actually remembered my exact words, so I could find this again.
“an excellent piece of filmmaking”
I scare myself!
March 23, 2010 at 9:17 pm |
March 23, 2010 at 9:25 pm |
http://www.4shared.com/file/240667938/90b04816/10_I_Scare_Myself.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/240665393/5a133449/09_I_Scare_Myself.html
March 23, 2010 at 9:45 pm |
Unmuted the Senate debate for a moment.
Senator McCain urged his colleagues to remove all special deals. There are special situations all over America, not just in a select few states.
You tell ’em, Senator!
March 23, 2010 at 9:46 pm |
My God, they all look so tired!
March 23, 2010 at 9:51 pm |
Just got a look at the hits for today.
3 more since last I looked, and I’m very appreciative.
I used to get depressed when it was 300.
It’s good when you can laugh at yourself.
Often we find an inscription on a scroll that reads Omnia Vanitas (“All is Vanity”), a quote from the Latin translation of the Book of Ecclesiastes.
March 23, 2010 at 10:00 pm |
I do notice, though, that the hits do tick up at crunch times.
So that makes me feel good.
I used to say at RS, I was happy getting 10 hits, then 100, then 1000, then 8000+.
Now I don’t even try to draw people here.
And I’m okay with that.
A little humility goes a long way.
March 23, 2010 at 10:10 pm |
March 23, 2010
http://www.4shared.com/play/10329682/efdae9dd/sharing.html
You can click on green arrow at end of each line, I mean if you choose to.
BTW, if you click on Page 3 and scroll down, you’ll find many a goodie.
Like the Victor Jara that begins at #236 (for the time being).
March 23, 2010 at 10:22 pm |
Never in my wildest dreams did I think I’d see this in my lifetime.
Anti-establishmentarianism from the right.
Fight the power!
March 23, 2010 at 10:27 pm |
Noun
1. antiestablishmentarianism – the doctrine of opposition to the social and political establishment
Right on!
March 23, 2010 at 10:49 pm |
The “Hit” Parade
http://www.4shared.com/file/159065822/7453a860/Jack_Jones_-__Fly_Me_To_The_Mo.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/160003470/5f0c2c21/01-Mio_Bello_Bello_Amore.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/198977981/57c9d56f/Electric_Flag__Buddy_Miles_-_T.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/169366086/9d6c0fe8/Melanie_Safka_-_Gods_Only_Daug.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/169365390/7de78a2b/Fernando_Ortega_-_Let_All_Mort.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/190960823/d1b26990/01_Andean_Sikuri.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/164411825/a3bc52b1/12_Las_Siete_Rejas__Con_Victor.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/164411267/2449734f/04_Charagua.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/163086423/8d3428b0/02_-_Sea_of_Consciousness.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/169366308/b04b16be/Waylon_Jennings_-_Kisses_Sweet.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/164411439/ba0bd6bf/07_Luchin.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/159776926/402cb0a8/02_Amazonas.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/159779305/bee71610/12_Malacun_Wawapa.html
“it’s time we stop, hey what’s that sound everybody look what’s goin down”
March 23, 2010 at 11:43 pm |
I don’t know if this is a good translation or not.
Las Siete Rejas
Siete rejas, siete llaves,
siete ríos, siete mares.
Siete son los que te llevan,
siete son los que te traen,
siete son mis siete mares.
Que venga, que venga,
que corra, que corra.
Mi valiente ha de volar,
mi valiente ha de volar,
mi valiente ha de volar.
Un valiente ya se acerca,
un valiente ya se acerca.
Galopando siete mares
buscando la fortaleza
para desatar tus manos.
Siete llaves,
siete rejas,
tu valiente romperá
***
Siete rejas, siete llaves, Seven bars, seven keys,
siete ríos, siete mares. seven rivers, seven seas.
Siete son los que te llevan, Seven are what you wear,
siete son los que te traen, seven are those that bring you,
siete son mis siete mares. seven are my seven seas.
Que venga, que venga, Let him come, come,
que corra, que corra. to run, you run.
Mi valiente ha de volar, My courage has to fly,
mi valiente ha de volar, my brave has to fly,
mi valiente ha de volar. my brave has to fly.
Un valiente ya se acerca, A brave is approaching
un valiente ya se acerca. a brave man is coming.
Galopando siete mares Galloping seven seas
buscando la fortaleza for strength
para desatar tus manos. to untie your hands.
Siete llaves, Seven Keys,
siete rejas, seven bars,
tu valiente romperá. your brave break.
http://www.4shared.com/file/164411825/a3bc52b1/12_Las_Siete_Rejas__Con_Victor.html
March 24, 2010 at 12:28 am |
March 24, 2010 at 12:29 am |
March 24, 2010 at 12:30 am |
Favorite Album Sides (cont’d.)
3 + 3 (Produced by The Isley Brothers) [T-Neck Records 1973]
A1|That Lady|5:35
A2|Don’t Let Me Be Lonely Tonight|3:59
A3|If You Were There|3:23
A4|You Walk Your Way|3:06
A5|Listen to the Music|4:06
B1|What It Comes Down To|3:54
B2|Sunshine (Go Away Today)|4:22
B3|Summer Breeze|6:12
B4|The Highways of My Life|4:53
http://www.4shared.com/file/247139352/db35752d/01_That_Lady.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247139752/dc3cddf1/02_Dont_Let_Me_Be_Lonely_Tonig.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247140660/d7f516b3/03_If_You_Were_There.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247141749/2561c1c7/04_You_Walk_Your_Way.html
http://www.4shared.com/file/247141936/f001679b/05_Listen_To_The_Music.html
March 24, 2010 at 1:03 am |
Healthcare fixes move to Senate, reconciliation gridlock looms
Republicans aim to raise amendments and procedural motions, followed by votes that could go on for days during reconciliation.
Democrats vow to pass the healthcare fixes unchanged.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2010/0323/Healthcare-fixes-move-to-Senate-reconciliation-gridlock-looms
Republicans vs. Democrats: where they stand
Senate Democrats emerged from a caucus luncheon Tuesday resolved to block any changes in the House fixes.
“This is just going to be parliamentary games,” says Sen. Claire McCaskill (D) of Missouri.
“It will be death by gotcha votes – dozens of them.
We have to stand up and be strong and say: Sorry, we are not going to play.”
This companion bill
– the promise of which was the only way to secure passage of the unpopular Senate bill through the House –
increases subsidies for low- and middle-income Americans and it adjusts funding to lower deficits.
It also includes a measure that makes the federal government the exclusive provider of student loans.
Sen. Judd Gregg (R) of New Hampshire wants to focus public attention on the student loan provisions.
The nationalization of the student loan industry,
quasi-nationalization of the financial system,
nationalization of the auto industry, and
quasi-nationalization of the health industry
will “drive this country down a road towards a European-style government,” he says.
Sen. Jon Kyl (R) of Arizona cautioned that government will increase to the point that rationing will result.
“People won’t see it right away,” he said.
“It could be several years before that begins to happen, although you’re already beginning to see it in Medicaid.”
March 24, 2010 at 1:20 am |
March 24, 2010 at 1:23 am |
Chokolulu
http://www.4shared.com/file/190968817/3846d6a5/12_Chokolulu.html
March 24, 2010 at 2:19 pm |
Another strange dream last night.
Message — NO FATALISM
Told ya I have strange dreams (leaving out the best part of my dream because then you’ll really think me a loon!).
Philosophy. the doctrine that all events are subject to fate or inevitable predetermination.
Origin:
1670–80; fatal + -ism
Just thought I’d pass that along.
More later.
March 24, 2010 at 2:25 pm |
Video
GOP Compares Health Care Bill To Armageddon; Massive “Debt Asteroid”
http://www.mediaite.com/online/debt-asteroid-armageddon-judd-gregg/
March 24, 2010 at 2:36 pm |
SHOW: FOX SPECIAL REPORT WITH BRET BAIER 6:00 PM EST
March 23, 2010 Tuesday
http://www6.lexisnexis.com/publisher/EndUser?Action=UserDisplayFullDocument&orgId=574&topicId=100007214&docId=l:1149877926&isRss=true
CAMERON: Democrats were braced to beat back a host of GOP delaying tactics.
MITCH MCCONNELL (R-KY), SENATE MINORITY LEADER: A couple of parliamentary inquiries which won’t delay the process very long.
CAMERON: Debate will last 20 hours. The GOP also planned a barrage of popular amendments. Passing any of them would force the fixes bill back to the House. One such amendment would require the executive branch, the president and his cabinet to get their health care from the new system, something not currently required.
JUDD GREGG (R-NH), SENATE BUDGET COMMITTEE: We’re going to offer substantive amendments on all those issues and hopefully some of them will pass. And if they do pass, then it does go back to the House.
CAMERON: Final votes are not expected until the end of the week. Republicans expected to pass despite their opposition and have set their sights on the fall.
JOHN CORNYN (R), TEXAS SENATOR: You’re going to see this become, I think, one of the signature issues in the November 2010 election. So in the end, in this political process, in this great democracy we have, the voters, the people always get the final say so.
CAMERON: But Democrats look forward to health care reform’s implementation, especially several popular provisions that start in September, just weeks before the election. Among the changes, no more insurance companies denying coverage for pre-existing conditions. No more insurance companies dropping coverage when people get sick. And young adults would be able to stay on their parents’ insurance until age 26.
The first GOP amendment would have blocked Democrats from using Medicare cuts to finance other programs. The GOP warned of a cataclysm.
GREGG: And so this will all end up rolling into a giant ball like a huge massive asteroid headed at earth which is basically going to land on our children’s heads as debt.
(END VIDEOTAPE)
CAMERON: That’s something you want to have special insurance coverage for, Bret. It takes 60 votes to pass the amendments, but obviously it only takes 51 to pass the overall bill. So the amendments are all expected to be defeated. The 51-vote threshold that is part of reconciliation will probably be tested once and for all by the end of the week — Bret.
BAIER: I don’t know if that meteor is covered.
CAMERON: Asteroid.
BAIER: Asteroid, sorry. OK. Carl, thanks.
March 24, 2010 at 2:53 pm |
He’s totally right that if the Supremes follow their insanely expansive precedents about the Commerce Clause, O-Care should be fine.
Even so, I’m skeptical that it’ll be as easy as he thinks.
Part of the reason is political — as the legal realists cynically said, “the law is what the judge had for breakfast,” and five conservative justices will find a mandate hard to digest — but part of it is legal too.
After the Raich decision, this is their last chance to draw any sort of line in the sand on the Commerce Clause.
If Congress can direct you to buy certain goods and services, its economic reach via the CC will be so enormous as to all but swallow the concept of enumerated powers.
Hot air
March 24, 2010 at 3:11 pm |
Democrats are hoping “that Americans don’t notice this is another power grab” DeMint
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/dcnow/2010/03/senate-resumes-healthcare-debate-as-obama-to-sign-antiabortion-order.html
Democrats too seemed weary of the legislative byplay.
“This is a political exercise for too many on the other side of the aisle,” said Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), the No. 2 Democrat in the Senate. Durbin appeared on NBC’s “Today” show with South Carolina’s Sen. Jim DeMint, who is one of the co-sponsors of the GOP’s doomed attempt to repeal the healthcare law that has already passed.
But DeMint insisted that Americans remain angry about the bill and the way it has become law.
Democrats are hoping “that Americans don’t notice this is another power grab,” DeMint said.. “So we’re going to bring these issues up.”
March 24, 2010 at 3:15 pm |
“the GOP’s doomed attempt to repeal the healthcare law”
doomed attempt?
It’s vulnerable Dems who are doomed.
Ryan on Health Care: “Change It, Repeal It, Replace It”
March 24, 2010 at 3:20 pm |
GOP senators in final drive to stall health bill
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jlMpJGn28kqCcgU-aGcYE_ZHW-ywD9EL2H5G0
The main suspense surrounding this week’s debate is whether the fix-it bill can emerge from the Senate unchanged.
If it does, it can go straight to the president for his signature, since it’s already passed the House.
If the Senate changes it even in a minor way, the legislation would have to go back to the House to be passed again, a prospect House leaders are prepared for but say they don’t expect.
Although the battle may soon be over on Capitol Hill, opponents already have launched a campaign from the outside, with 13 state attorneys general suing Tuesday to overturn the legislation on grounds it is unconstitutional.
And Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., served notice Tuesday of the GOP’s continued campaign against the legislation going into the fall election season.
“The slogan will be ‘repeal and replace,’ ‘repeal and replace,'” McConnell said.
March 24, 2010 at 3:27 pm |
Steele sent a “Fire Pelosi” email to his subscriber list.
He writes:
In response to President Obama signing this monstrous bill, the RNC is extending the Fire Pelosi Money Bomb for an extra 24 hours — that’s 24 more hours to ensure our Party has the resources needed to defeat 40 Democrat Representatives and bring Nancy Pelosi’s iron-fisted reign to an end.
If you haven’t donated yet, please go to GOP.com right now and make a secure online donation of $40 or more to help the RNC fire Nancy Pelosi and her liberal allies in Congress.
If you have already made a donation, I ask that you forward this message on to at least five of your friends, family and/or colleagues who are sick and tired of the Democrats ignoring the will of the people and urge them to support the RNC’s money bomb today.
http://www.gop.com/firepelosi/
March 24, 2010 at 3:47 pm |
The NRCC’s Target List
Take a long look. Many of these people (if we keep up the fight) will be out of work in November:
Melissa Bean (IL-8) – Cook PVI: R+1
Sanford Bishop (GA-02) – Cook PVI: D+1
Tim Bishop (NY-01) – Cook PVI: Even
John Boccieri (OH-16) – Cook PVI: R+4
Leonard Boswell (IA-03) – Cook PVI: D+1
Allen Boyd (FL-02) – Cook PVI: R+6
Dennis Cardoza (CA-18) – Cook PVI: D+4
Russ Carnahan (MO-03) – Cook PVI: D+7
Chris Carney (PA-10) – Cook PVI: R+8
Gerry Connolly (VA-11) – Cook PVI: D+2
Jim Costa (CA-20) – Cook PVI: D+5
Joe Courtney (CT-02) – Cook PVI: D+6
Kathy Dahlkemper (PA-03) – Cook PVI: R+3
Steve Driehaus (OH-1) – Cook PVI: D+1
Bill Foster (IL-14) – Cook PVI: R+1
Gabby Giffords (AZ-08) – Cook PVI: R+4
Alan Grayson (FL-08) – Cook PVI: R+8
John Hall (NY-19) – Cook PVI: R+3
Debbie Halvorson (IL-11) – Cook PVI: R+1
Martin Heinrich (NM-01) – Cook PVI: D+5
Baron Hill (IN-09) – Cook PVI: R+6
Jim Himes (CT-04) – Cook PVI: D+5
Rush Holt (NJ-12) – Cook PVI: D+5
Steve Kagen (WI-08) – Cook PVI: R+2
Paul Kanjorski (PA-11) – Cook PVI: D+4
Mary Jo Kilroy (OH-15) – Cook PVI: D+1
Ron Kind (WI-03) – Cook PVI: D+4
Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-01) – Cook PVI: R+6
Ron Klein (FL-22) – Cook PVI: D+1
Suzanne Kosmas (FL-24) – Cook PVI: R+4
Rick Larsen (WA-02) – Cook PVI: D+3
Dave Loebsack (IA-02) – Cook PVI: D+7
Dan Maffei (NY-25) – Cook PVI: D+3
Jerry McNerney (CA-11) – Cook PVI: R+1
Betsy Markey (CO-4) – Cook PVI: R+6
Alan Mollohan (WV-01) – Cook PVI: R+9
Chris Murphy (CT-05) – Cook PVI: D+2
Patrick Murphy (PA-08) – Cook PVI: D+2
Scott Murphy (NY-20) – Cook PVI: R+2
David Obey (WI-07) – Cook PVI: D+3
Bill Owens (NY-23) – Cook PVI: R+1
Ed Perlmutter (CO-07) – Cook PVI: D+4
Tom Perriello (VA-05) – Cook PVI: R+5
Gary Peters (MI-09) – Cook PVI: D+2
Earl Pomeroy (ND-AL) – Cook PVI: R+10
Nick Rahall (WV-03) – Cook PVI: R+6
Ciro Rodriguez (TX-23) – Cook PVI: R+4
John Salazar (CO-03) – Cook PVI: R+5
Loretta Sanchez (CA-47) – Cook PVI: D+4
Mark Schauer (MI-07) – Cook PVI: R+2
Kurt Schrader (OR-05) – Cook PVI: D+1
Carol Shea-Porter (NH-01) – Cook PVI: Even
John Spratt (SC-05) – Cook PVI: R+7
Bart Stupak (MI-01) – Cook PVI: R+3
Betty Sutton (OH-13) – Cook PVI: D+5
Dina Titus (NV-03) – Cook PVI: D+2
Niki Tsongas (MA-5) – Cook PVI: D+8
Tim Walz (MN-01) – Cook PVI: R+1
Charlie Wilson (OH-06) – Cook PVI: R+2
David Wu (OR-01) – Cook PVI: D+8
John Yarmuth (KY-03) – Cook PVI: D+2
March 24, 2010 at 3:56 pm |
I keep doing a search for “bart stupak” and “devil” just to see what comes up.
Fairly or not, Devil Incarnate
Did he honestly believe it would be otherwise?
Like I said, not the sharpest tool in the shed.
***
Michigan’s favorite son, Democrat Congressman Bart Stupak, may have sold his soul to the devil.
But hell, he did get $700K in taxpayer dollars for a couple airports in his district.
That and he got lots of attention from President Obama and the national media.
So all in all, a good week for Mr. Stupak.
His 15 minutes of fame will lead to taxpayer’s subsidizing the murder of the most innocent of life.
But that’s a small price to pay, right Bart?
March 24, 2010 at 4:02 pm |
Kyl said minor changes may be made that would require the House to vote again on the bill.
He said private conversations between leaders and the Senate parliamentarian didn’t give him reason to believe Republicans could prevail with an attempt to strike a tax on high-value health plans.
Asked whether he expected a ruling against that effort, he said, “yes.”
Leaders in both parties have agreed to a timetable for debate that could yield a final vote as early as tomorrow.
March 24, 2010 at 4:05 pm |
“minor changes may be made”
I hope so, so House Dems will have to go on record one more time.
And it will be interesting to see which Senate Dems vote no on reconciliation.
Then the fight moves to the courts and the ballot box.
March 24, 2010 at 4:12 pm |
VAN SUSTEREN: What do the Democratic senators say to you on the floor when you talk to them about this?
GREGG: Well, they — they — they want this bill, you know?
They know they can’t pay for this bill any other way than to take the money out of Medicare, and so they’re willing to make this choice.
They’re willing to use Medicare funds to pay for this bill.
(I’d believe Senator Gregg if I were you.)
March 24, 2010 at 4:17 pm |
Judge Roger Vinson gets health care lawsuit
http://www.pnj.com/article/20100324/NEWS01/3240342/1006/NEWS01/Judge-Roger-Vinson-gets-health-care-lawsuit
March 24, 2010 at 5:47 pm |
New Thread:
March 24, 2010 at 8:49 pm |
I agree with your dream
nature shows that life is both static and fluid and even then, beyond that, where creation is..
good dream when a person is troubled by things
life loves you huh?