“Life like ours is very difficult to find.”


“There is an extremely classified document dealing with religion, and it’s extremely thick. [It says] that we’re ‘containers.’ That’s supposedly how the aliens look at us; that we’re nothing but containers–maybe containers of souls.”

An excerpt from the book “UFOs and the Alien Presence” (1991 by Michael Lindemann ISBN 0-9630104-0-9)


BL = Bob Lazar
GH = Gene Huff
ML = Michael Lindemann
PH = An anonymous physicist
RS = Ralph Steiner

RS: “Bob, you said you read in the document room some rather strange references to human evolution and the aliens’ role in human genetics. How did that come up, in what context? What was it you saw?”

BL: “I hate to repeat this stuff. I say this every time I mention it, because I have no other proof it’s true, other than the fact that I read it; and I always follow that up by saying, yes, everything I read about the propulsion system turned out to be fact.

But it’s really far-fetched, and even though I did work with alien technology on flying saucers, I still find it difficult to come to grips with the physical alien thing in itself.

But as far as where that came from, yes, there was a book that was almost like a history of the development of the human race. It was written from a different point of view.

I don’t think that particular thing had a title to it. But that’s where we were referred to as ‘containers.’

Any time the word ‘human’ came up, it was always replaced with the word ‘containers.’ Earth was referred to as Sol 3 instead of earth. It was a strangely written report.”

ML: “What do you think the word ‘containers’ referred to?”

BL: “That referred to people. Now, containers of what, I don’t know. You can speculate on that until you turn BLUE.”

ML: “This book you’re referring to — are you saying this book was of alien origin?”

BL: “I’ll tell you exactly how it looked. It was certainly odd, in that it was written from another point of view. It was like a history book of us, like someone had been looking at the earth and written a brief history of what had happened, and how everything living here looked, so on and so forth.

If you remember the old Collier’s encyclopedias, in the section on anatomy they had the clear pages that you could turn, and there’s the circulatory system, the organs, and so forth. OK.

This was one of the most fascinating things in the briefings, other than the information itself.

As you turned the page — it would be a picture of, for instance, an old adobe house — and as you moved the page up, you’d see through the different levels of the house, almost like those little 3-D things you bend and see different views, but it was very smooth and clear, much higher resolution. I’d just never seen anything like that.

I don’t know if it actually exists anywhere, or if we’re talking about something of alien origin, but as you turn the page, you can see the superstructure, and then down to the wood itself, then the foundation.

There again, there were no references to people. Everything was ‘containers.'”

ML: “But it was clear from the context that the word container referred to people? [BL: Right.]

What kinds of things did they say about the people? Did they talk about how people behave, what the historical development was?”

BL: “What they were talking about was the desirability of containers, and that the containers were not damaged.

Now, people speculate on containers. Are they talking about containers of souls, something bizarre like that; or is it the opposite?

Is the container the soul, and it contains the body?

That’s too far out really for me to grasp, but they were talking about the preservation of the containers, and how unique they are.

Extremely, extremely unique…”

GH: “That life like ours was very difficult to find.”

BL: “Very difficult to find.”

BL: “By the way, the book, if flipped over, is two books put together. One’s upside down.

This way, it’s kind of the basic history of earth.

You flip it over and read it the other way, and it has to do with Reticulum Four, as they called it, which dealt with the alien civilization.”


Bob Lazar stated that the “Sport Model” Flying Disc amplified the “Strong Nuclear Force” of Element 115 (UnUnPentium or UUP) to generate the gravity field for “Space-Time Compression.”  Bob also stated that the U.S. Government had 500 pounds of Element 115 in their possession.  The raw Element 115 was given to the U.S. Goverment at S4 by the Reticulan EBEs in the form of discs.  The scientists at S4 sent the Element 115 discs through Groom Lake to Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, to be milled for use in the Anti-Matter Reactor.  The Los Alamos personnel were told it was a new form of armor.  They simply followed orders, milled it in accordance with the following steps, and sent it back to Groom Lake.  It was during this process that some of the Element 115 turned up missing. 

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Interview with Gordon Cooper – Michael Lindemann


What about bodies?

Maybe, yes. But I think there were better ones than Roswell,” he said. “We got some live ones.

Live ones? Live aliens? Of course one hears all the rumors and wild tales. Did Gordon know for sure that there were some live aliens?

I knew a guy who brought one in,” he said.

What? Brought one in? What did that mean, exactly?

It was back in the mid-1950s, at White Sands Proving Ground in the middle of the New Mexico desert.

His friend — Gordon called him Moser, and said that Moser had passed away just a few years ago — was a rocket scientist. He was working by himself on a rocket engine test bed, getting ready for a test the next day.

Suddenly, without warning, he heard a voice say his name. He didn’t know where it came from. He looked around, saw no one. The voice said his name again.

“Then the voice said, ‘Don’t worry, I’m above you in a craft a few miles up.’

Gordon said the voice belonged to a person who wanted Moser to provide lots of basic information about earth and humans, so that this visitor could begin to adjust to living here.

An arrangement was struck whereby Moser would bring the visitor library books, the visitor would read them at incredible speed, then Moser would go get some more.

On more than one occasion, Moser went aboard the visitor’s craft.

The visitor looked human enough to pass on the street, but he was not used to earth gravity and had a hard time breathing our air.

It took him five years to acclimate to earth conditions. Then he started living on the surface. Moser stayed in close touch with him.

I asked Gordon if he ever met the visitor. “No. I hinted around again and again, but Moser never introduced us.

Where is the visitor now? Gordon said he doesn’t know. The visitor learned to blend into human society and became a businessman, Moser said.

Why was the visitor here?

Gordon said Moser told him the visitor’s people had been in space a long time.

They were a very old race, and their planet had died when their sun died. They didn’t want to invade or change our society. They just wanted to live on solid ground.

Earth took some getting used to, but Moser’s visitor friend had adjusted well. Presumably there were many others, but Gordon didn’t claim to know about that.


I asked him if he thought there had been any technology transfer.

He said it was quite possible that the story told by Bob Lazar about saucers at a secret base in Nevada was true; and that wreckage had probably been recovered at Roswell and elsewhere.

I asked him if he thought the rumors about a landing at Holloman Air Force Base in New Mexico were true, and he said he thought perhaps they were.


Michael Lindemann is one of America’s most active and well-known lecturers on the subject of UFOs and human-alien contact.

Since 1990, Michael Lindemann has earned national recognition for contributions to the study of UFOs. He first examined the UFO controversy from the angle of its possible connection to covert weapons development and social policy.

Finding substantial evidence in support of UFO claims, he launched the Visitors Investigation Project to conduct and publish UFO research.

In 1994, Michael Lindemann co-founded the Institute for the Study of Contact with Non-human Intelligence (ISCNI, Inc.).

The UFO publications of the 2020 Group, as well as Michael Lindemann’s many public lectures, are intended to broaden public awareness and increase the legitimacy of public discussion concerning the entire range of claims surrounding UFOs and alleged human-alien contact.

Books: 1990: “UFOs and the Alien Presence: Time for the Truth” (Out of print.), 1991: “UFOs and the Alien Presence: Six Viewpoints”, 1992: “UFOs and the New World Order”, 1992: “UFOs and the Alien Presence (Video), 1994: “UFOs and the Global Situation” (Video).

With guests: Linda Moulton Howe: Crop Circles and Michael Lindemann: who looks to the future. Military and Government disinformation, ufo’s, and more.

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  3. blessedistruth Says:

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  4. blessedistruth Says:

    Woolsey, Petersen and Greer

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    Quoting from a sensitive memo FedEx’ed to my home from Mr. Petersen, who made all of the arrangements with the CIA Director:

    “re “I talked to Woolsey this morning and he (underlined in original) suggested getting together over dinner.

    He was not aware of your organization or that anyone was planning such an announcement (regarding UFOs/smg).

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    Mr. Petersen, who heads up a Washington area think tank called The Arlington Institute, was working very closely with me during those days and had substantial experience in national security and military matters.

  5. blessedistruth Says:

    John L. Petersen, President and founder of The Arlington Institute, is considered by many to be one of the most informed futurists in the world.


  6. blessedistruth Says:

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  7. blessedistruth Says:

    “hillary is 44” — an interesting perspective


    “Norma Jean Young speaks out about the murder of her son, Donald Young, former Choir director of Obama’s Church Trinity United in Chicago. Mrs. Young “What was the cause of my son’s death? I’m very suspicious that it may have been related to Obama.” “Donald and Obama were close friends.”

    Asked who benefited from a cover-up, Norma says, “it could be anyone, including Obama.”

    plus a whole lot more

  8. blessedistruth Says:

    Riddle Me This


    To: Polarik

    You will find that all of the eligibility lawyers have been barking up the wrong tree.

    When? Which is the right tree?

    26 posted on 07/16/2010 10:24:03 PM PDT by Spaulding


    To: Spaulding

    Hawaii – the weakest link.

    27 posted on 07/17/2010 7:28:17 AM PDT by Polarik

  9. blessedistruth Says:

    Lakin representative blasts Tribune for “reckless” editorial


    Lakin spokeswoman Margaret Hemenway sent an e-mail to the Tribune saying the article fell short of journalistic standards for “recklessly” lumping Lakin with the other “bizarre criminal cases” in the article.

    In the e-mail she told the Tribune

    “It is disappointing that many newspapers demanded candidate McCain prove he was “natural born” by producing his original birth certificate, but asserted Obama’s “online” Certification of Live Birth” was valid to determine his eligibility, even though never claimed by Hawaii officials as a state document.”

    She went on to say

    “Even today, no Hawaiian hospital will claim to be the President’s birthplace, while prominent Kenyans declare Obama was born there- including recently Minister of Lands James Orengo, speaking in Kenya’s Parliament.”

    Hemenway told the Gazette the idea of linking a murderer with Lakin was “ridiculous, he is a peaceful and honorable man.

    This is despicable.”


    While critics and numerous members of the media have said claims about the President’s eligibility have been debunked, the issue refuses to go away.

    Tim Adams, a former senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu said Obama “definitely” was not born on U.S. soil.

    “As of the time I was in Hawaii working in the elections office we had many people who were asking about the eligibility of Senator Obama to be President.

    I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu.

    There is no such form in Hawaii.”

    Adams went on to state that the Certification of Live Birth is issued to children born on foreign soil stating that it is given to “children of families who are residents of Hawaii when children are born outside the state.”

    What makes this case unique is that Adams was a Hillary Clinton supporter who supports the President and he has criticized those who say Obama is not eligible to be Commander in Chief.

    In Ohio, licensed private investigator Susan Daniels has said Obama is using a social security number issued in Connecticut even though there is no record of the President ever having lived in the state.

    The records indicate the number was issued between 1977 and 1979, however Obama said he worked for Baskin-Robbins in 1975.

    Hemenway said it was noteworthy the Administration has not condemned Daniels for her findings or denied the allegations.


    [Adams] was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu.

    (Maybe, so Obama not born in Honolulu OR long-form missing because there’s something on it he doesn’t wish us to see?)

  10. blessedistruth Says:

    Found at ObamaConspiracy

    Dick Whitman 12. Jul, 2010 at 7:56 pm

    I’m cynical. I don’t think Vitter would bother to mention the birther lawsuits if he didn’t know something was about to break.

    Who knows?

    Stanley Ann’s Certificate of Loss of Nationality.

    Lakin’s subpoena request for Dr. Fukino to testify with all of Barack’s birth records.

    Justice Thomas granting Orly’s request …

    Wherefore the appellant respectfully requests:

    1. stay and reversal of sanctions wrongfully assessed against her by Judge Clay D. Land

    2. rule 11 limited discovery of Mr. Obama’ s vital records, to show that the legal action, for which Taitz was sanctioned was justified

  11. blessedistruth Says:

    Dr. Conspiracy 14. Jul, 2010 at 4:54 pm


    Don (Sven) Draper

    If Stanley Ann took Barack’s original birth certificate into the US Passport office, then the passport examiner would want to see the Obama Divorce Decree to determine if there were any international travel restrictions written into the agreement and to see if Stanley Ann was awarded full custody.

    The divorce decree and Barack’s original BC would be included in Stanley Ann’s passport file to cover the US State Dept if BO Sr ever showed up to challenge the issuance of a US Passport to a future leader of the Luo Tribe of Kenya.


    No. If such were the case, the documents would be in Barack Obama’s passport file, not his mother’s, and inaccessible by FOIA.

    However, the fact that the Dunham passport release is sitting in DoS legal review suggests one of two possibilities to me: There is something in that application about which there is a legal question for release OR it has something to do with the lawsuits only.


    Me: And we’re still waiting.


    If Barry Soetoro would release the details of his adoption and subsequent dissolution of adoption, then a lot of confusion would be cleared up


    You were aware that the US Department of State has denied that there was any adoption?


    Me: This doesn’t mean young Barry wasn’t adopted by Lolo. I’m sure there’s a lot the DOS doesn’t know about or doesn’t want to know about.

  12. blessedistruth Says:

    Did Lolo adopt Barry?

    I know I shouldn’t mention Korir, but what Michelle Obama supposedly said keeps nagging at me.

    For the record, I don’t know if Korir was lying or not. I did believe him at the time, I had reason to. Korir lied or he decided for one reason or another not to damage Obama.

    Either way that doesn’t tell us if young Barry was adopted or not.



    “There is no shame in being adopted by a step father. All dirt has been thrown onto my husband’s face and yet he loves this country. My husband and I know that there is no law that will stop him from becoming the president, just because some American white racists are bringing up the issue of my husband’s adoption by His step father.”

  13. rosettasister Says:


    Obama was not born a US Citizen, BUT the White House is telling the world that he was. Is it all a political game or someone is openly fooling the American people?

    Posted by africanpress on July 29, 2009


    As far as we are concerned and as far as all known sealed evidence as per this day, The US President Barack Obama is not an American citizen.

    Debate on the subject will continue until Obama himself decides to come out and tell the people what he himself knows to be the truth.

    The American people deserve to be given answers when they ask questions. Of course there is fear now.

    If the contrary to what the White House has said is now said then there will be a problem because The President may have to face impeachment.

    The country is not prepared for this because any attempt to impeach Obama will most probably cause instability in the country.

    In our earlier articles, we came out near factual, according to evidence given to us, that the President is said to have been born in Mombasa in Kenya.

    It will not matter actually where the man was born as long as his father was a Kenyan citizen.

    In many countries you belong to your father’s corner when citizenship becomes an issue.

    There is no difference here when it comes to being born to a Kenyan father.

    And if one is adopted by another nationality, that does not mean you loose your father’s citizenship unless you apply for naturalization to follow your new father, a thing that has not been pointed out by the White House when they come out to tell the public that Obama is American citizen.

    It may now be the time for those interested to study, know and get the truth as potrayed by the Mombasa Imam’s documents in order to satisfy their curiosity on the matter thereafter putting it top rest once and for all.

    Obama is doing well now in the White House.

    The question, therefore, is whether it is right to open up wounds by proving Obama’s citizenship, a thing that may highten temperatures in the US.

    May be the Americans should accept the President and wait until his term is over.

    By Chief editor Korir/ API


    I do not know if Korir has commented since.

    I know it does not matter if Korir lied or not.

    I know it DOES matter if Obama lied or not.

  14. blessedistruth Says:


    4) Obama’s adoption records – sealed

    5) Records of Obama’s and his mother’s repatriation as US citizens on return from Indonesia – not found, not released

    6) Name change (Barry Soetero to Barack Hussein Obama) records – not found, not released

    7) Noelani Elementary School (Hawaii) – not released

    Punahou School financial aid or school records – not released


    adoption records sealed — how can they be sealed if he was never adopted?

  15. blessedistruth Says:


    Momma Obama soon left her husband and remarried Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian. She moved to Indonesia with Barack in tow.

    Soetoro adopted Barack Obama, changing his name to Barry Soetoro.

    School records indicate Obama/Soetoro is a citizen of Indonesia.

    If I’m not mistaken our Constitution says our president cannot have a dual citizenship.

    (And if I’m not mistaken the issue was that at the time in Indonesia one could not be a dual citizen.)

    Okay, anyway, Barry Soetoro from Indonesia gets a grant to be a foreign exchange student at Occidental College in Los Angeles, California.

    Laaa laaa…my fellow Americans…the fat lady is singing.

    It’s over – end of story.

    How can a citizen of the United States be in the United States as a foreign exchange student? Can’t happen!

    Well, I wish that was the end of the story but it’s not.

  16. blessedistruth Says:


    •We know that Barack Jr. was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, a citizen of Indonesia, and attended school in Jakarta registered as a Muslim citizen of Indonesia, which was only possible as the adopted son of Soetoro and legal citizen of Indonesia, which at the time did not allow dual citizenship with the US.

    (Is it not absurd that we American citizens don’t even know for sure if Obama was adopted or not? Why hide behind the law so we are kept in the dark? There has to be a reason.)

  17. blessedistruth Says:


    Moreover, even if Senator Obama have somehow been deemed “natural born,” that citizenship was lost in or around 1967, when he and his mother moved to Indonesia, where Stanley Ann Dunham married Lolo Soetoro, an Indonesian citizen.

    Berg also states that possesses copies of Sen. Obama’s record in school Fransiskus Sitting in Jakarta Indonesia, which clearly show that was registered under the name “Barry Soetoro” and his citizenship listed as Indonesian.

  18. blessedistruth Says:


    Moreover, the Indonesian School Record

    shows the name of the child as “Barry Soetoro”;

    Citizenship: Indonesia;

    and Parent: Lolo Soetoro, M.A.

    The Soetoro Divorce shows the parties of the marriage having two (2) children, one under the age of eighteen (18) and one over the age of eighteen (18) (Soetoro/Obama) who was a full time student.

    See divorce papers below.

    In divorces, you do not name a child as the child of the parents, like in the Soetoro Divorce, unless the child is legally the child of the divorcing parents.

    In otherwords, if Lolo Soetoro was only a step-parent with no legal ties to Soetoro/Obama, then Soetoro/Obama would have never been named in the Soetoro Divorce.

  19. blessedistruth Says:

  20. blessedistruth Says:

    I’m still trying to convince my son that the Moody Blues were better than the Beatles.

    Fat chance!

    He’s doing very, very well. Got a good gig based in Manhattan.

    On the Threshold of a Dream is the third album by The Moody Blues’ psychedelic era line-up and was released on the Deram label in 1969.

    Side One

    1.”In the Beginning” (Graeme Edge) – 2:08
    2.”Lovely to See You” (Justin Hayward) – 2:34
    3.”Dear Diary” (Ray Thomas) – 3:56
    4.”Send Me No Wine” (John Lodge) – 2:21
    5.”To Share Our Love” (Lodge) – 2:53
    6.”So Deep Within You” (Mike Pinder) – 3:10

    Side Two

    1.”Never Comes the Day” (Hayward) – 4:43
    2.”Lazy Day” (Thomas) – 2:43
    3.”Are You Sitting Comfortably?” (Hayward, Thomas) – 3:30
    4.”The Dream” (Edge) – 0:57
    5.”Have You Heard (Part 1)” (Pinder) – 1:28
    6.”The Voyage” (Pinder) – 4:10
    7.”Have You Heard (Part 2)” (Pinder) – 2:26


  21. blessedistruth Says:

    Moody Blues In The Beginning

    First Man: I think, I think I am, therefore I am, I think.

    Establishment: Of course you are my bright little star, I’ve miles And miles Of files Pretty files of your forefather’s fruit and now to suit our great computer, You’re magnetic ink.

    First Man: I’m more than that, I know I am, at least, I think I must be.

    Inner Man: There you go man, keep as cool as you can. Face piles And piles Of trials With smiles. It riles them to believe that you perceive the web they weave And keep on thinking free.

  22. blessedistruth Says:

    Moody Blues The Dream

    When the white eagle of the North is flying overhead

    The browns, reds and golds of autumn lie in the gutter, dead.

    Remember then, that summer birds with wings of fire flaying

    Came to witness springs new hope, born of leaves decaying.

    Just as new life will come from death, love will come at leisure.

    Love of love, love of life and giving without measure

    Gives in return a wonderous yearn of a promise almost seen.

    Live hand-in-hand and together we’ll stand on the threshold of a dream.

  23. blessedistruth Says:

    Moody Blues “Have You Heard (part 2)”

    Now you know how nice it feels,
    Scatter good seed in the fields.
    Life’s ours for the making,
    Eternity’s waiting, waiting,
    For you and me.

    Now you know that you are real,
    Show your friends that you and me
    Belong to the same world,
    Turned on to the same word,
    Have you heard?

  24. blessedistruth Says:

    46% — 54%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

  25. blessedistruth Says:

    RobL’s take on Obama eligibility

    JeezLouise, this is getting scary. And just a little disgusting. And, really, who cares?

    There are more telling issues.

    However, I have seen a copy, on line, of a valid divorce decree, listing Barry Soetoro, (or it may have just listed an 18 year old without naming him) as an adopted child of Lolo Soetoro, whose rights as a father were given up in favor of the mother, Stanley Ann Dunham Soetoro, in the divorce.

    *** If he was never adopted by Lolo, there would not be a reason for him to have been listed in the divorce. ***

    So, if he was adopted, he became a legal resident, and citizen of Indonesia.

    Could he have regained his birthright ‘citizenship’, if he ever had it?

    Yes, he could have. As an adult.

    It would never have been ‘natural born’, as the ‘named’ father was not a citizen.

    But it doesn’t appear that ever happened.

    It couldn’t happen, because I suspect they couldn’t prove he was born in Hawaii.

    The thing may have been filed, but never accepted. (?)

    If Tim Adams is correct, all of officialdom in Hawaii is acutely aware there is no long-form certificate. None.

    Further, if, as an adult, he re-established his Indonesian citizenship to gain either a new or renewed Indonesian passport, (or likewise renewed a Kenyan passport), in order to travel to Pakistan, he would have permanently lost his right to automatically claim American citizenship.

    He would have to have gone through the full application process to become a citizen, and subsequent naturalization.

    That, too, has apparently never happened.

    How can this be proven?

    Take a look at his Occidental paperwork. This is vital.

    I believe he applied as a foreign student.

    However, Obama Sr., was still married to Kezia when the sham marriage to Stanley took place in February of 1961.

    The marriage to Stanley was never a legal one as the US doesn’t recognize polygamy.

    Therefore he is an (illegitimate) child, if indeed Obama Sr. is his father.

    (No need to be unkind.)

    In truth, he would still be an (illegitimate) child considering the marriage lie.

    It is interesting that a Social Security number which may have been used by Occy begins with 999-99-XXXX, so I’ve read.

    This was a school initiated flag for someone who was a foreign student who did not have a traditional number when applying for school, and would have been changed at a later date, once a true number was assigned.

    This, even though he apparently had used the Connecticut SS# of the man born in the nineteenth century, the one he still uses, in order to scoop ice cream in Hawaii as a teenager.

    If he was applying as an American citizen, wouldn’t he have just used that one?

    It is curious, that as a newly minted US Senator, he somehow came up with yet another SS#, which he changed back to the ice cream scoop-jockey number.

    There is so much fraud circling around this guy, it is enough to choke a horse.

    I think he also applied to Columbia as a foreign student as well.

    All has been concealed.

    Other presidents, and wannabes (like Kerry and McCain) had low to mediocre grades in college, so to use that as an excuse, if that is the excuse, to keep America from seeing the Occy and Columbia records, is a foil only

    *** a lame-brain mouth-breathing democrat such as Maddow ***

    (LOL! Maddow is a smart shill.)

    would accept.

    No, the birth certificate issue has never held water for me.

    I believe it is the Indonesian and/or Kenyan passport used to gain entry into Pakistan, which should be more carefully inspected.

    I wish Lt. Col LAKIN well, but I believe Soetoro may be more easily proven to be a fraud as a student travelling to Pakistan, than as a baby born in Hawaii.

    (I edited this a little bit. I really don’t care if Obama is illegitimate. But I do care that he’s destroying our private sector.)

  26. blessedistruth Says:

    This is why I’m so interested in these FOIA requests for Stanley Ann and Lolo’s passports, etc.

    Birthers will never be satisfied so long as so much remains concealed.

    Try as you may, you can’t stop people from talking.

    And you can’t stop people from having suspicions.

    And if that puts a little question mark about Obama in the back of their mind, so be it.

  27. blessedistruth Says:

    Fellow Americans,

    Please know: I am Black; I grew up in the segregated South. I did not vote for Barack Obama



    I cannot join you in your celebration. I feel no elation. There is no smile on my face. I am not jumping with joy. There are no tears of triumph in my eyes. For such emotions and behavior to come from me,


    I would have to wipe my mind clean of all that I know about the kind of people who have advised and taught Barack Obama and will fill posts in his administration – political intellectuals like my former colleagues at the Harvard University’s Kennedy School of Government.

    I would have to believe that “fairness” is equivalent of justice.

    I would have to believe that man who asks me to “go forward in a new spirit of service, in a new service of sacrifice” is speaking in my interest.

    I would have to accept the premise of a man that economic prosperity comes from the “bottom up,” and who arrogantly believes that he can will it into existence by the use of government force.

    I would have to admire a man who thinks the standard of living of the masses can be improved by destroying the most productive and the generators of wealth.



    Highly recommend you read the whole thing.

    I have my own theory about white guilt. About guilt in general.

    Guilt is not love.

    Admit your mistakes and apologize for them.

    But think about it.

    Have you ever made a decision which stemmed from feeling guilty about a particular situation rather than how you truly felt or what was truly best for all concerned including yourself?

    Did anything good come of it?

  28. blessedistruth Says:

    Who’s Distorting the Civil Rights Movement?

    Friday , July 16, 2010

    By Glenn Beck


    Racism is being used as a tactic for political gain.

    The NAACP is now trying to intimidate Tea Partiers, passing a resolution to condemn quote “racist elements” in the party.

    I do not believe that racism is a white man’s problem or a black man’s problem or a Hispanic problem.

    Racism is a human problem.

    They are now trying to divide us into black and white, not unite us into one human race like Dr. King did in the ’60s.

    It is our responsibility to protect the rights granted by God that King fought for the government to recognize and tonight we are going to talk about those rights.

  29. blessedistruth Says:

    Dr. Alveda King

    She is the pastoral associate at Priests for Life. She is a niece of Dr. Martin Luther King. She was there; daughter of King’s brother A.D. King.

    And Stephen Broden, he is a senior pastor at Fair Park Bible Fellowship in Dallas, Texas. He’s also running for Congress in Texas.

  30. blessedistruth Says:

  31. blessedistruth Says:


    Glenn Beck Issues Challenge to America’s Pastors


    ‘Glenn Beck’: What Would Martin Luther King Think of America Today?


  32. blessedistruth Says:

    I’m very fond of Alveda King, not familiar with the other gentleman.

    Dr. Alveda King notes, “Abortion has done what the Klan only dreamed of.”


  33. blessedistruth Says:

    47% — 52%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

  34. blessedistruth Says:

    July 19, 2010

    Generic Congressional Ballot: Republicans 45%, Democrats 36%

    52% Favor School Ban on Sales of Sugary Snacks and Soft Drinks

    Alaska Governor: Parnell (R) 53%, Berkowitz (D) 34%

    California Voters Divided Over Stimulus Plan

    36% Favor Lifting U.S. Embargo on Cuba, 35% Disagree

    61% Expect Rise in Health Care Costs Under New Law, 56% Favor Repeal

    Just 29% Want Congress to Consider Major Legislation During Lame Duck Session

    Balance of Power Ratings: Pennsylvania Shifts from Toss-Up to Leans GOP

    Pennsylvania Senate: Toomey (R) 45%, Sestak (D) 38%

  35. blessedistruth Says:

    Real Clear Politics

    Georgia Governor – Republican Primary Magellan Strategies (R) Handel 38, Deal 20, Oxendine 12, Johnson 17 Handel +18

    Michigan Governor – Republican Primary Detroit News Hoekstra 26, Cox 26, Snyder 20, Bouchard 12 Tie

    Pennsylvania Senate – Sestak vs. Toomey Rasmussen Reports Toomey 45, Sestak 38 Toomey +7

    Arizona Governor – Brewer vs. Goddard Behavior Research Center Brewer 45, Goddard 25 Brewer +20

    Sunday, July 18

    Georgia Governor – Republican Primary Mason-Dixon Handel 29, Deal 20, Oxendine 22, Johnson 13 Handel +7

    Nevada 3rd District – Heck vs. Titus Las Vegas Review-Journal Titus 42, Heck 40 Titus +2

    Saturday, July 17

    Nevada Governor – Sandoval vs. Reid Las Vegas Review-Journal Sandoval 47, Reid 36 Sandoval +11

    Wisconsin Governor – Walker vs. Barrett Rasmussen Reports Walker 48, Barrett 44 Walker +4

  36. blessedistruth Says:

    Speaking of Guilt …

    “The Presumption of Guilt”

    Christopher Hitchens on his memoir, Hitch-22


    HH: Okay, so better, varieties of evil. I want to get to Iraq. Last week, I had Peter Beinart on talking about his new book, The Icarus Syndrome.

    And in that, you’re identified as one of the left hawks who’s unrepentant about your left hawkism.

    And in fact, I told him he had to go read Hitch-22, which he had not yet read, because of your argument about Iraq, and your argument about why it was necessary, and why, in retrospect, it remains necessary still.

    CH: Yes.

    HH: But tell the audience, are there any other people left who came from the left to do, as you did, stand on the side of the invasion of Iraq, who are still there?

    Or are they all runaway?

    CH: No, I don’t think they’ve all run away. I mean, there was a quite creditable book produced of people making, an anthology.

    I don’t, just don’t have its name in my head just right now.

    But people from various spots in Europe and the rest of the world, and America, too, saying that we have to finish with this Saddam Hussein regime. There’s no alternative.

    But the fact has to be faced, that this is considered to be an almost bizarrely eccentric position now, even though, you know, Iraq now has elections, has a constitution…

    HH: A free press.

    CH: …has a free press, it has bad political parties behaving in selfish ways.

    It has a wonderfully functioning autonomous zone in the northeast of the country for its Kurdish minority, the first time in their history they’ve ever had anywhere to call their own.

    These are people who have been turned into refuse, and raw material for mass graves within very recent memory. None of this is credited…

    furthermore, not a small thing, by the way, we can actually certify Iraq as having been properly inspected and disarmed, which we couldn’t before, unless we took the word of Saddam Hussein.

    That’s not a small thing, and it’s had a good knock on effect on politics in Iran next door, and in Lebanon, and elsewhere, too.

    The fall of Saddam Hussein was generally very positively experienced.

    And I think it will be remembered as a great thing to have done.

    But unfortunately, the overlay of incompetence and mismanagement and bungling that followed the liberation is never going to be forgiven or forgotten.

    And by the way, I don’t think it should be.

    HH: Do you believe on weapons of mass destruction that we know the story completely, or that we ever will?

    CH: I think there’s more to be found, and more people haven’t testified yet.


    But I think we know enough to say from books like the memoir of Saddam’s chief nuclear scientist, Dr. Mahdi Obeidi, the famous book called The Bomb In My Garden, and others,

    that there was only one presumption on which to operate

    in any sentence that contain the words weapons of mass destruction and Saddam Hussein,

    and that was on the presumption of guilt.


    It had to be assumed, it would be very unwise to assume that he wasn’t either harboring the means of reconstituting, or keeping some of the sinews of WMD, even if he’d been substantially degraded.

    And then of course, if he had been substantially degraded, I argued then and argue now that’s the time to hit him, when he doesn’t really, when he doesn’t really have…

    in other words, there’s a window of impotence.

    Take that now, because you won’t have another chance.

    (Hitchens would have been a good general. I was amazed as I was reading this at just how unrepentant and how sharp Hitchen argues his position knowing he’s under the infuence of chemotherapy. Compare that with dweeb Beinart. Blech!)

  37. blessedistruth Says:


    NYTImes is dumbfounded that O losing popularity despite passing all this really great legislation


    4:12 AM Jul 16th

  38. blessedistruth Says:

    Higher Education Minister Wiliam Ruto, who is leading the ‘No’ campaign in Coast Province

    Ruto: Draft will lead to harassment


    He insisted there were 300 contentious sections in the draft constitution which were to be amended in Parliament but MPs were coerced into withdrawing the amendment motions.

    Dr Munyaka called for dissolution of the Cabinet if the ‘No’ camp wins on August 4.


    What the hell is this?!


    Ruto accused the US Government of dishing out Sh2 billion to several organisations to sway Kenyans to support the draft.

    “We are talking about Sh2 billion given to some churches, trade unions and even pollsters to confuse Kenyans over the draft,” Ruto said.

    Speaking to reporters before addressing the rallies, Ruto said US Ambassador Michael Ranneberger was busy “bribing church leaders to change their stand.

    It is not only serious but also an insult to intelligence of Kenyans.”

    He tabled a list prepared by US Congressman Chris Smith, showing several religious groups, trade unions and a Kenyan pollster as beneficiaries.

    USaid Inspector General Donald Gambatesa provided the report listing the organisations.

  39. blessedistruth Says:

    Feds Hand $28 Million to Kenya Proxies Fighting for Pro-Abortion Constitution


    With Kenya’s pivotal referendum on a new pro-abortion constitution just a few weeks away, three pro-life congressmen have brought forward more evidence that the U.S. federal government has heavily invested in procuring the approval of the document – to the tune of $28 million.

    The U.S. has also enlisted pro-abortion groups to convince Kenyans to approve the constitution, they said, despite the existence of federal laws prohibiting such activity.

    Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), Ranking Member of the Africa and Global Health Subcommittee, along with

    Reps. Ileana Ros-Lehtinen (R-Fla.), Ranking Member on the House Foreign Affairs Committee and

    Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), Ranking Member on the House Oversight Committee,

    now report that the degree of the federal government’s complicity in supporting its proxy “yes” campaign in Kenya was far more than the $2 million dollars they estimated at the beginning of their investigation, and twice the revised figure of $11 million.

    “The Obama Administration should not be spending $23 million in American tax dollars on the specific ‘Yes’ campaign, pushing a determined outcome on the proposed constitution in Kenya,” Smith said.

    “The U.S. government can be supportive of the process, helping to secure a free and fair referendum.

    But we must respect the Kenyan people and let them decide for themselves.

    U.S. dollars should not be used to tell the Kenyan people how to vote.”

    The Congressmen say that they acquired the information from

    Donald Gambatesa, the Inspector General for the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID),

    which can be found on a chart


    listing the groups receiving USAID funds for activities related to the constitutional referendum with a summary of their agreements.

    Such activity could mean that, not only is the Obama administration influencing the outcome of a sovereign nation’s referendum, but also pushing a constitution that would overturn Kenya’s current “life of the mother only” exception to its ban on abortion.

    Such activity is prohibited by the Siljander amendment, a statute that prohibits the federal government from using foreign aid funds “to lobby for or against abortion.”

  40. blessedistruth Says:

    Nairobi — The Obama administration is spending US$23 million on the referendum campaign, more than double what had earlier been acknowledged, a US congressman says.

    “US tax dollar monies are flying out the door to pro-abortion groups committed to overturning pro-life laws in Kenya,” Republican Representative Chris Smith charged on Friday.

    He released new information from the inspector general of the US Agency for International Development that is sure to stoke the controversy over the Obama administration’s involvement in the constitutional reform process.

    A USAid listing provided to Congressman Smith shows that US$2.9 million is being given to

    Development Alternatives for “activities related to the constitutional support process.”

    This Washington-based NGO suggested 10 years ago that USAid in Kenya “would benefit by supporting civil society organisations that are advocating for ‘efforts to eventually legalise abortion in Kenya,'” Mr Smith said in a statement.

    The chart provided by Donald Gambatesa, the USAid inspector general, also lists an US$85,363 grant to

    the Kenyan Federation of Women Lawyers (FIDA-Kenya),

    which, according to Mr Smith, launched a campaign in 2008 to liberalise Kenya’s abortion law.

    (So kadhi courts for Kenyan Muslim women are okay so long as Kenyan non-Muslim women can more easily access legal abortions?)

    This is called making a deal with the devil.

    Let’s not forget the Obama — Odinga connection and the secret Memorandum of Understanding Odinga signed with Kenyan Muslim leaders regarding sharia law.

    Fortunately Odinga lost but that didn’t stop him from fomenting violence which led to countless atrocities.

  41. blessedistruth Says:

    Flagstaff dentist Paul Gosar

    Sarah Palin backs Arizona dentist’s run for Congress


    “I’m also proud to endorse Dr. Paul Gosar for Arizona’s 1st Congressional District.

    Thankfully, Paul shares our belief that the federal government’s reckless spending is putting us on a dangerous path towards insolvency – and he’s determined to do something about that.

    In addition to being a proud family man, Paul is a dentist, and as a small-business owner running his practice, Paul understands the challenges confronting job creators when D.C. stifles us with endless mandates, over-regulation, plans to impose new energy taxes, and just generally (and unnecessarily) overreaches into the private sector.

    The good doctor knows that true job creation comes from the private sector, not government; and he will work to rein in the fed’s long arm and get our economy moving again by getting government out of the way.

    Paul stands firmly behind Governor Jan Brewer’s efforts to protect Arizonans, and the rest of us for that matter, by securing the border.

    He’s endorsed by three of Arizona’s leading sheriffs because they know America needs Dr. Paul Gosar to hold Washington accountable on this imperative national security issue,” Palin said.

    Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio also backs Gosar.

  42. blessedistruth Says:

    Thank you again, Joe Sarno!

    Tim Hardin 2 is the second album by folk artist Tim Hardin, released in 1967.

    The original LP release has a long poem on the back cover by Hardin titled “A Question of Birth…”

    Tim Hardin 2 contains Hardin’s most popular and much-covered composition “If I Were a Carpenter”

    Side one

    1.”If I Were a Carpenter” – 2:41
    2.”Red Balloon” – 2:37
    3.”Black Sheep Boy” – 1:58
    4.”The Lady Came from Baltimore” – 1:49
    5.”Baby Close Its Eyes” – 1:52

    Side two

    1.”You Upset the Grace of Living When You Lie” – 1:47
    2.”Speak Like a Child” – 3:15
    3.”See Where You Are and Get Out” – 1:12
    4.”It’s Hard to Believe in Love for Long” – 2:17
    5.”Tribute to Hank Williams” – 3:10












  43. blessedistruth Says:

  44. blessedistruth Says:

  45. blessedistruth Says:

    Monday, July 19, 2010

    Obama’s Phony Connecticut SS#: Gibbs Refuses to Answer


    Robert Gibbs, Obama’s White House spokesman, had an interesting reaction today when he was asked point-blank about Obama’s alleged use of a Connecticut social security number.

    We’ve got a clip of that, and right below that is a clip that explains the allegation (in somewhat dramatic fashion) –

    it’s interesting that the identity theft allegations that sounded so outlandish to me when Dr. Orly and I first discussed them last year,

    are now being supported by people like Jerome Corsi of WorldNetDaily.


  46. blessedistruth Says:

    The Critical Question


    The drawback of impeachment is the way it would inevitably cast Obama as the victim of predatory politicians. It is not a good choice.

    Presumably, lying about one’s eligibility to hold the office of President and spending huge sums to ensure that one’s birth certificate and actual place of birth shall remain unknown would justify removal.

    We all know by now that, constitutionally, only a “natural born” citizen may serve as President.

    His father was a British citizen and both parents must be American to qualify as natural born.

    We all know that considerable controversy exists as regards the birthplace and citizenship status of Obama.

    Was he a Kenyan? Was he an Indonesian citizen at one point?

    The enduring question on the minds of many is why the court cases filed to get at the facts regarding his eligibility have encountered so much resistance?

    Surely this is a matter of major national concern.

    What nation would permit an imposter to serve in its highest office?

    Alas, early cases were dismissed when those bringing them were deemed to have no “standing” before the court though one might think the lowliest citizen should have standing.

    As wrenching as the process of removing Obama from office via the judicial process might be deemed, there is no legitimate reason not to proceed.

    There appears to be no evidence his birth was registered with the American embassy or consulate in Kenya.

    I have seen a photo of a document said to be his Kenyan birth certificate.

    Having no way to authenticate it, I am reluctant to pass judgment.

    The birth certificate from Hawaii, offered during the 2008 campaign, is said to be one issued upon request as opposed to the “long form” issued for those actually born there.

    There was some question raised at the time as to its authenticity with allegations that it was photoshopped.

    There is a question whether a long form certificate exists.

    My personal view is that many in government fear the consequences of removing even an illegitimate President from office, given that it would require that all legislation signed into law and all executive orders issued by him would be rendered invalid.

    I suspect some fear that chaos more than waiting and hoping the electoral process will end his term in 2012.

    My problem is that the nation must endure some 900 more days of the malevolence or sheer incompetence he will initiate;

    including a lame duck session of Congress following the midterm elections that would impose Cap-and-Trade, card check, and other legislative abominations.

    A large majority of the electorate presently wants Obamacare repealed and will likely feel the same about the alleged financial “reforms.”

    There are constitutional scholars who know far more about such things than me, but I confess to remaining baffled by the failure to attend to

    the critical question regarding the right of Barack Hussein Obama to be the President of the United States.

  47. blessedistruth Says:

    What on earth is THIS all about? Punchbowl Cemetery?


    To: Responsibility2nd; LucyT; ExTexasRedhead; blackie

    Robert Gibbs, Obama’s White House spokesman, had an interesting reaction today when he was asked point-blank about Obama’s alleged use of a Connecticut social security number.

    Not to worry, just about every media talking head finds the usage by the leader of our nation of a false Social Security number to be inconsequential and unworthy of being reported upon

    (picking and choosing their “stories” carefully so as not to offend this administration or anyone colluding within it),

    although for anyone else, it would be an IDENTITY THEFT crime.

    13 posted on 07/19/2010 5:16:59 PM PDT by MamaDearest


    To: MamaDearest

    He committed identity theft on the social security number AND on the birth certificate number.

    And the HDOH, VA, and Punchbowl Cemetery all know it, which is why they are trying to erase the real owner of that BC# out of existence.

    I would add that they would also steal the identity and dissolve the memory (and records) of a dead child for power.

    I’ve seen it with my own eyes.

    19 posted on 07/19/2010 5:24:41 PM PDT by butterdezillion

  48. blessedistruth Says:


    To: aragorn

    It will be the subject of a large post once all the record-collecting is complete, Lord willing.

    What we know already is that there are big-time shenanigans going on with those 3 entities on this particular issue.

    People laugh about “conspiracy theories”.

    It is what it is, and we know that these 3 agencies are all hiding and/or destroying records for one particular person – even to the point of denying she is buried where the records all along have said she is buried.

    Those records have been verified by the cemetery within the last 7 years as accurate.

    Then as soon as I started asking to see the records all evidence of her existence was removed.

    Not only does everything associated with Obama have questions surrounding it – everything associated with Obama is also surrounded by criminal conduct on the part of the government stewards of that information/record/document.

    The only agencies I’ve worked with that may not necessarily be corrupt are

    the Hawaii Archives office and

    the actual secretary I spoke with at the VA’s main office (who thought something was fishy since the records weren’t showing up.

    The official response I received from the VA did not come from her; it came directly from the head of that department).

    That’s a very sad thing to have to say.

    The rule of law apparently means nothing to the vast majority of our government, media, and law enforcement personnel.

    Either that, or the leaders are all so corrupted that they keep anybody with integrity from being able to uphold the rule of law.

    133 posted on Tuesday, July 20, 2010 7:42:08 AM by butterdezillion

  49. blessedistruth Says:

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    To: butterdezillion
    “When I “break” this story I will note that it is a blog. I will post the entire thing here but you’ll have to go to my blog to get the links to the documentation because I don’t have time to embed all that stuff using HTML, with which I am not familiar.”

    I post links to my blogs all the time. And I’m not the only Freeper who’s done that.

    Punchbowl Cemetery?

    Are you implying there’s a child buried there and his/her birth certificate number is being used by Obama?

    There’s so much disinformation surrounding the eligibility question that I don’t know what to believe any longer.

    Looking forward to your post.

    147 posted on 07/20/2010 8:59:23 AM PDT by rosettasister
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    To: rosettasister
    I know they’re trying to delete her very existence from the memory of mankind. I’ve got the screenshots, newspaper copies, e-mails, and letters to prove it.

    Why would they do that?

    150 posted on 07/20/2010 9:17:48 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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  50. blessedistruth Says:

    We report. You decide.


    To: butterdezillion

    This is the best thing you can do, butterdezillion: Bring the light of day to what’s hidden in plain sight.

    About Mr. Gibbs:

    Gibbs has taken credit for thinking up this idea to post the “birth certificate” on the Internet at least 3 times, publicly.

    What’s interesting is that in one instance, he placed the timeframe for WHEN (in all his brilliance) he conceived the notion to put the BC online at circa Jan./Feb. 2008.

    He made the comment in July 2009, stating that he told them to put the BC online “a year and a half ago.”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmb4XmqM0VU (about 33 seconds in).

    But they didn’t put the BC online then, in Feb. 2008, when Gibbs first “thunk it up.”

    Why not? Why was Gibbs focused on an Obama BC in Feb. 2008?

    What else was happening circa Feb. 2008?

    One of John O. Brennan’s contract employees was sanitizing Obama’s passport files of “embarrassing” information, according to a reporter who spoke to an anonymous source, with inside information on the State Dept. investigation into the breach.


    What else was happening around that time?

    According to the exif data (later expunged) on the FactCheck photos of the alleged COLB, those photos were actually taken, at Obama campaign headquarters in Chicago, mere DAYS BEFORE the final break-in of Obama’s passport files.

    Link to that “story” at FactCheck:


    What else was happening?

    Dr. Rodney T. West, war hero, retired hospital administrator, and one-time OB/GYN at Queen’s Medical and the Straub Clinic in Hawaii, passed away in Feb. 2008,


    only later to be implicated by an Obama supporter and erstwhile Obama schoolteacher as the delivering physician (later massively debunked).

    Ms. Nelson amusingly stated,

    “I may be the only person left who specifically remembers his birth. His parents are gone, his grandmother is gone, the obstetrician who delivered him is gone.”

    Oh, yes. Conveniently so. Conveniently dead. All of them.

    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2294967/posts (The original story seems to have been locked up at the Buffalo newspaper archives.)

    This claim was debunked. Discredited. Didn’t hold water, but it sure sounded plausible, didn’t it?

    (Well, maybe not so plausible. She remembers gossip about people she didn’t even know, over 45 years later? And we’re supposed to believe, further, that a man like Dr. Rodney T. West broke medical ethics to gossip about a teen-aged patient?)

    We can find many such “coincidences” circulating about the Obama eligibility issue.

    For example, reporter Jim Geraghty first asked the Obama campaign to show a BC on 6/9/2008.


    Shortly thereafter, the infamous COLB turned up.

    See the FactCheck “story” for particulars and also this link for a little background, whether you agree with Andrew C. McCarthy or not:


    Immediately, intelligent people began to question the authenticity of a digital image posted on a campaign website (determined by blogger jbjd to be nothing more than a political advertisement) and picked up by partisan blogs like FactCheck.

    People wanted to know why the BC# was blacked out, in particular.

    And why he didn’t present an original paper document, verifiably produced by the Hawaiian Dept. of Health and CERTIFIED by them, affirming its provenance and accuracy.

    What else was happening in JUNE 2008, besides the release of the photoshopped digital image of a COLB?

    Thelma Lefforge, sole surviving owner of the home where little Barry first lived, according to myth, died on 6/12/2008.

    Shortly thereafter, in July 2008, Obama’s newspaper birth announcements showed up on the Texas Darlin blog, sent to her by Lori Starfelt, who received them from a librarian at the Hawaiian state library.

    These allegedly acccurate digital images of birth announcements cited Thelma Lefforge’s home as the residence of BHO’s parents (which we all know by now was not true, since Mr. BHO Sr. lived elsewhere).

    But Mrs. Lefforge was recently deceased, so nobody could ask her who lived on her property in 8/1961.

    Keep in mind that people were asking for a BC# right around the time the birth announcements appeared in July 2008.

    If a person needed a plausible BC#, where would one find a suitable candidate whose number might be swipe-able?

    iirc, the first time a BC# appeared for Obama was Aug. 21, 2008, when FactCheck revealed the alleged visit to the COLB in Chicago by their unnamed “representatives”, see link above.

    About a year later, Mrs. Eleanor Nordyke, circa July 2009, allowed reporters from the Honolulu Advertiser to photograph her daughters’ 8/5/1961 birth certificates, complete with their birth certificate numbers, making the unredacted BC# for Obama look plausible indeed.

    butterdezillion’s blog will point you to other coincidences and anomalies.

    There is no admissable evidence to date that supports what Obama claims about his origins.

    There is much evidence to date that puts the lie to MUCH of what Obama has said about his origins.

    Who is Obama? We still wait for an answer.

    159 posted on 07/20/2010 10:54:12 AM PDT by Greenperson


    To: Greenperson

    EXCELLENT compilation, Greenperson!!

    I had overlooked Gibbs’ statement of when he had them put the COLB online.

    The COLB was supposedly printed in June of 2007, Gibbs told them to put it online in Feb 2008, and it only appeared online (minus any of the validating marks) in mid-June, with the birth announcements showing up mid-July, and the BC# added mid-August.

    If the COLB had been authentic, Gibbs could have told them to put it up in Feb of 2008 and the whole darn thing would have been there the next day.

    Instead it came by bits and pieces, and only as people noticed what was lacking.

    In July of 2009, when Gibbs made the comment, it was almost exactly a year from when the COLB actually appeared on the internet.

    Very peculiar that he didn’t say just “a year ago”.

    He was clearly associating his involvement as being in the wintertime rather than summertime.

    Excellent, excellent summary!

    160 posted on 07/20/2010 11:54:34 AM PDT by butterdezillion

  51. rosettasister Says:



    Dr. Conspiracy 20. Jul, 2010 at 1:31 pm

    imabirthertoo: When things don’t make sense, there is usually good reason for them to not make sense.

    (Kind of like Dr. Con, making sure to state that he has a master’s degree, while remaining anonymous.)

    Many here would likely say that they are sure he is telling the truth.

    Some know that he is not.


    I had assumed that the readers here were familiar enough with popular culture to recognize the phrase “I’m not a real doctor, but I have a master’s degree” from the Dr. Science character from the Ducks Breath Mystery Theater. (Huh?!)

    I post anonymously because of concerns about my personal safety from those who publicly call for the extermination of Obama and all his supporters.

    (That’s a bit over the top, Dr C. Do you think you’re the only one who’s received death threats?)

    As for you, if you think I have not told the truth somewhere, cite it, rather than making vague smears.

    Crap like that may fly on birther blogs, but not here.


    “if you think I have not told the truth somewhere”

    the truth as you interpret, Dr. C

    how can you be so sure? I’m not.

    I’m not infallible.

  52. blessedistruth Says:

    Memo to Dr C

    I post about this birther “nonsense” because I “see” things.

    It is mostly a gift.

    I don’t appreciate being labeled a racist, although that doesn’t bother me as much as it used to.

    I realize that many Obama supporters believe that about all birthers, and they cannot get past that.

    So my truth doesn’t jive with yours.

    I see what I see.

    I see you struggling.

    What if everything you believed in came crashing down?

  53. blessedistruth Says:

    46% — 53%

    Rasmussen Obama Approval

  54. blessedistruth Says:

    July 20, 2010

    47% Confident in U.S. Banking System

    Ohio Senate: Portman (R) 45%, Fisher (D) 39%

    Voters Still Think Bailouts Were A Bad Idea

    56% Support Offshore Drilling; 47% Favor Deepwater Drilling, Too

    Connecticut Senate: Blumenthal (D) 53%, McMahon (R) 40%

    Idaho Senate: Crapo (R) 64%, Sullivan (D) 27%

    Rasmussen Reports

  55. blessedistruth Says:

    Ohio Senate – Portman vs. Fisher Rasmussen Reports Portman 45, Fisher 39 Portman +6

    Nevada Senate – Angle vs. Reid PPP (D) Reid 48, Angle 46 Reid +2

    (Probably accurate. It’s razor thin. Could go either way. Wait for next Rasmussen.)

    Wisconsin Senate – Feingold vs. Johnson Magellan Strategies (R)
    Feingold 45, Johnson 43 Feingold +2

    Florida Senate – Rubio vs. Meek vs. Crist PPP (D) Crist 35, Rubio 29, Meek 17 Crist +6

    Florida Senate – Rubio vs. Greene vs. Crist PPP (D) Crist 38, Rubio 29, Greene 13 Crist +9

    Connecticut Senate – McMahon vs. Blumenthal Rasmussen Reports Blumenthal 53, McMahon 40 Blumenthal +13

    Arkansas Senate – Boozman vs. Lincoln Magellan Strategies (R) Boozman 60, Lincoln 29 Boozman +31

    Maine Governor – LePage vs. Mitchell vs. Cutler Rasmussen Reports LePage 39, Mitchell 31, Cutler 15 LePage +8

    Real Clear Politics

  56. blessedistruth Says:

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    To: butterdezillion
    The HDOH denied they have a BC for her, followed by the VA denying they have any records for her at all, followed by Punchbowl Cemetery denying she’s even buried at their cemetery.

    They’re all lying …


    Does this girl have a family? Is it possible to contact them? Can you explain why you believe Obama is using her BC#?

    When do you think we’ll be able to see your post?

    Thanks in advance.

    209 posted on 07/21/2010 7:30:58 AM PDT by rosettasister
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    To: rosettasister
    I thought her mom was alive but apparently I was mistaken. She may have one brother still living but when I tried to contact him I got the recording saying that number has been discontinued.

    Looks like their lies are safe because – just like Obama’s BC – I can only note their discrepancies and can’t prove anything until I can see the records, which they won’t allow me to do.

    It’s frustrating and disgusting.

    210 posted on 07/21/2010 8:23:30 AM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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    Free Republic

    still I’d like to hear butterdezillion theory

  57. blessedistruth Says:


    Come out, come out, wherever you are!

    Can’t seem to find “imabirthertoo” comments at ObamaConspiracy (see above)

    Dr C would never delete “imabirthertoo” comments, now would he?

    If memory serves, “imabirthertoo” is an African-American Medical Doctor Birther who believed Obama’s election would be a breath of fresh air.


  58. blessedistruth Says:

    I found what I was looking for:


    imabirthertoo 20. Jul, 2010 at 11:45 am

    Bob Ross, (if that is your real name I must applaud your courage)

    Why the need to initially respond with an attack on the substance of my comment?

    Fear? Sure it is fear. George Washington, in his farewell address, told us to fear usurpation.

    Was George wrong to consider such to be guarded against?

    I know the fears of millions of Americans could’ve been laid to rest, and I know who has the ability to make that happen. Obama

    I don’t dislike Obama. I never have. I think he was the breath of fresh air that this country needed.

    Why is it that people think you must dislike him in order to find a need to question him?

    Steadfast defense of the unknown is the way many deal with their fear of an outcome they would rather avoid.

    I have seen it too many times.

    For example, those who developed interstitial lung disease, after many years of smoking, are more likely to blame their exhaustion on getting older.

    They don’t want the truth.

    Seeking the truth is the only effective way to address a problem.

    Many Obama defenders play the race card as if it were the wildward in their defense deck.

    As an African-American, I find this disgraceful.

    It only serves to delegitimize every valid complaint.

    Obama, by failing to nip this thing in the bud, has damaged race relations in this country.

    (yes yes yes!!! That’s what I said!)

    What makes the cries of racism worse is that they are predominantly being made by white folks who have never been subjected to racism.

    I grew up in the south. I’ve seen racism up close and personal.

    Questioning Obama is not a matter of race.

    Playing the race card to defend him against all questions is the very essence of racism.

  59. blessedistruth Says:



    To: butterdezillion

    I’m interested in how you arrived at your conclusion, even if it can’t be proven.

    I agree with you, sins must be paid for, by someone.

    someone has to pay.

    look forward to hearing more from you.

    212 posted on 07/21/2010 8:56:15 AM PDT by rosettasister


    To: rosettasister

    Well, the HDOH has already confirmed

    (via their statement about the BC#’s being given by the HDOH on the “date filed”)

    that there is a discrepancy with the BC# on the Factcheck COLB.

    What they’ve said indirectly confirms that Factcheck is a forgery because the “date filed” and the BC# are not compatible with each other,

    given that Obama’s “date filed” is 3 days before the Nordyke twins’ but the number is 2 higher (later) than theirs.

    So either the “date filed” has been changed, or the BC# has been changed, or both.

    Since the “date filed” was there from the beginning but the identifying BC# only appeared months later, I suspect that the BC# is what has been altered.

    The BC# he used just about had to be somebody who was born shortly before the Nordyke twins at Kapiolani.

    Preferably somebody who is dead and couldn’t show their BC#.

    Preferably somebody who had been dead a long time so their family would have either lost the BC or would have no need to look at it and notice the numbers.

    Somebody who was born on Aug 4, 1961 and died on Aug 5, 1961 is perfect for the situation.

    When the HDOH, Punchbowl Cemetery, and VA all suddenly lose the records for that person it sort of confirms what’s going on.

    But like I said, I can only prove it by seeing the documents and they say they don’t even have them.

    The OIP has told me they can’t investigate whether records have been illegally destroyed so I can’t even prove that they really have destroyed these records, or whether they’re just lying.

    I know they’re doing one or the other, because they had the records as of June 2006.

    Like everything with Obama, it’s frustrating to sort it out logically, see the behaviors confirming what you suspect, and have the government officials hide behind “confidentiality” in order to hold off the legitimate questions of the people.

    I’m stuck.

    They say the record doesn’t exist,

    and even in the case of the permanent records they say don’t exist

    (the original birth index and index of foreign births)

    where we know the records existed in 1980 and were required to be retained permanently….

    all I can do is ask the Ombudsman to investigate.

    Alfred Itamura has supposedly been investigating whether the HDOH has illegally destroyed those records since May 28th – almost exactly 8 weeks –

    and he has refused to respond to my question even about whether Fukino and Okubo would be put on administrative leave while he investigates.

    I got a “read” receipt saying he had gotten my e-mail asking about that 7 weeks ago, but I have heard nothing from him.

    To put it bluntly, he’s not doing a thing.

    He’ll wait until I e-mail to ask him what he’s found and then he’ll say they have found nothing wrong so “shut up and file a lawsuit if you don’t like my answer.”

    That’s what he did last time.

    It’s hopeless, unless we find a way to hold these crooks’ feet to the fire.

    They’re hiding behind their positions of power.

    215 posted on 07/21/2010 9:22:04 AM PDT by butterdezillion

  60. blessedistruth Says:

    See also:

    Final Letter to Officials

    By butterdezillion

    This entry was posted on January 11, 2010


  61. blessedistruth Says:


    To: Greenperson

    The photos were digitally manipulated between when they were taken and when they were posted online.

    They added at least the seal, since it doesn’t “bend” when the page is folded but remains almost entirely round.

    I’d love to see what Polarik has that would clarify.

    But back when I didn’t know whether to trust Polarik or not I did my own experiments with circles on the fold of a page at precisely the angles and perspective that the Factcheck photos have – using only what Factcheck itself was presenting to the world.

    From the experiments I did, there is no way that the seal they’ve got on that photo was there when they photographed the paper it’s supposedly on.

    I’d like to know whether Polarik finds that they added the BC# also,

    or whether the BC# was actually on the paper they photographed.

    Has anybody here been able to see Polarik’s videos?

    Does he address this?

    218 posted on 07/21/2010 9:51:35 AM PDT by butterdezillion


    To: butterdezillion

    I haven’t watched Polarik’s videos.

    I’ve never put a lot of trust in his work because he’s a little erratic and too quick to jump to conclusions that aren’t fully supported.

    I think he might be right about some things, but his methodology is shaky and his explanations are a little convoluted.

    I still think the certificate number is the key to this whole thing.

    When you discovered that

    *** the cert number used to be part of the official index data ***

    (and still is in other states),

    you exposed the biggest evidence of collusion IMO.

    Unlike Spokesbabe Okubo’s nonsense comment that cert numbers could be used to hack their system,

    *** the HI DOH has no real reason not to release the index data for whoever that cert number belongs ***

    Since they refuse, then it’s very certain that the number does NOT belong to Obama.

    This would have been the quickest and easiest way for them to prove Obama is legit and was truly born in Hawaii, but they can’t — WON’T — do it.

    You propose a good explanation of who that number really belongs to.

    If the truth ever comes out, a lot of people would be going to jail.

    220 posted on 07/21/2010 10:18:52 AM PDT by edge919

  62. blessedistruth Says:


    To: edge919

    And the fact that the HDOH has either destroyed or lied about the non-existence of the original birth index which would (probably) contain the BC#’s …

    speaks volumes also.

    Why can we not find a single law enforcement person in this country who will touch this?

    That’s the thing that eats me up inside, because the nation can’t survive this level of lawlessness.

    We can survive Obama (hopefully; though at the rate he’s going I’m not too sure about that any more either).

    But we can’t survive this level of corruption and lawlessness – especially if all the legitimate means to confront the lawlessness seem to have been taken away by a complicit judiciary and law enforcement system.

    It’s suicide.

    You can’t turn the heat up to 3,000 and expect a canner with no pressure release valve to survive.

    The thing is gonna blow; the only question is when.

    About the only hope I see is if some brave AG realizes that it is suicide if he/she DOESN’T take up this issue, break the superficial scab the media has put on all this, and let the gangrene within our system drain out in all its putrid stench for all the world to see.

    That’s the only way this land can heal.

    And if it doesn’t happen soon the gangrene will be fatal to this country.

    I think we all know that.

    221 posted on 07/21/2010 10:37:12 AM PDT by butterdezillion


    Do you know what I hate the most about this whole experience?

    Given how the history of our nation is so tied up with the sin of slavery and the civil war we fought to purge our nation of its sins, the election of a Black man to our highest office should have been a cleansing experience.

    It should have been cathartic.

    But it’s been anything but. I can forgive Obama a lot. But I cannot forgive that he stole “what should have been” from us.

    And I think the experience will leave us a little gun shy before we pull the lever again for our next Black president.

    The nation will remember what its like to be called racist, when in fact it is not.

  63. blessedistruth Says:


    To: butterdezillion

    I’ll have to watch his video. [Polarik’s]

    His opinions changed over time.

    Your own experiments are probably as valid.

    Anybody with even passing experience with scanning documents knew immediately that the Daily Kos “scan” was questionable.

    What I notice on the FactCheck photo that shows the document, on its side, on a table, with a bright light in the background, presumably to highlight the embossing on the seal:

    There are black, foreshortened blobs representing the lines of text on the far side of the COLB.

    Where are the black blobs to correspond with the father’s information?

    You can triangulate where they SHOULD BE, based upon the other photos and by counting down from the blobs representing the other lines of text.

    But there are no blobs for the father’s information.

    Where are they?

    222 posted on 07/21/2010 11:08:09 AM PDT by Greenperson

    “no blobs for the father’s information”

    I’d like to see that.

  64. blessedistruth Says:

    Russian Spy Mission 10 Arrested

    “They took that birth certificate number and checked it against records in Philadelphia where it had been issued,” she said.

    “And that person apparently did not exist.”


    Is butterdezillion saying that if same was done with Obama birth certificate number, that

    a — Obama apparently does not exist


    b — Obama is using a dead child’s birth certificate number?

  65. blessedistruth Says:

    In case you want to continue following “butterdezillion” discussion

    Go here, then scroll down


  66. blessedistruth Says:


    “I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”

    At the time of Obama’s birth in 1961, parents could rather easily get a Hawaiian birth certificate for a baby who wasn’t born in Hawaii.

    1. Aug. 4, 1961 — Obama supposedly born in Hawaii in Kapiolani hospital.

    2. Aug. 5, 1961 — Nordyke twins born in Hawaii in same Kapiolani hospital. Copies of long form birth certificates are on internet.

    3. Aug. 8, 1961 — Obama’s birth certificate is filed with Hawaii vital statistics, if we are to believe what we see on Obama’s short form birth certificate that we see all over the internet.

    4. Aug. 11, 1961 — Nordyke twins birth certificate filed with Hawaii vital statistics.


    5. 10641 — Obama number on short form birth certificate that we see all over the internet.

    6. 10638 — Nordyke twin number on top of long form birth certificate.

    7. 10637 — Nordyke twin number on top of long form birth certificate we see on internet.


    8. Huh? What is going here that does NOT smell right? Why does Obama’s certificate have a HIGHER number than the Nordyke twins’ certificates, when the Obama certificate was filed 3 days EARLIER: Aug. 8 vs. Aug. 11.

    9. So, if Obama’s birth certificate was filed on Aug. 8, then it should have a LOWER filing number than the Nordyke twins’ birth certificates that were filed on Aug. 11.

    12. But as we can see above, Obama’s birth certificate received a HIGHER number—10641—than the Nordyke twins—10637 and 10638.

    13. Something does not smell right concerning why Obama’s number is greater than the Nordyke twins.

    14. I wish that the Nordyke twins would demand that Hawaii officials explain why they received LOWER numbers than Obama. They obviously have so-called “standing” to ask questions about their own Hawaii birth certificates.

    22 posted on Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:49:20 AM by john mirse


    So “butterdezillion” is saying that not only does Obama birth certificate number not jive with the date he was born

    but “butterdezillion” is also saying she got close to uncovering who

    “10641” actually is until she was confronted with unpassable roadblocks

    can’t wait to hear the rest of the story

    what is the name of of this unfortunate child? what is her brother’s name?

  67. blessedistruth Says:

    It’s pretty sad when you can’t even remember that you yourself posted something about this a long time ago!

    (My daughter tells me I have ADD!)


    rosettasister Says:

    January 7, 2009 at 5:19 pm


    POLARIK says:
    December 30, 2008 at 5:24 pm


    Now, IMHO, the reason why it was redacted on the alleged “scan” image, but allegedly shown as 010641 in the phony Factcheck photos, is that Obama’s birth registration was, in fact, a late one, and would not have a number less than 14,000 (approx. the number of births for 1961 that actually were recorded during 1961).

    I believe that if you looked up birth record #151 1961-10641, you would find someone who is now deceased!

    (I believe this was Kevmo quoting Polarik.)

  68. blessedistruth Says:

    Reply #7 on this page:


  69. blessedistruth Says:

  70. blessedistruth Says:

    “Obama takes Illinois mistakes nationwide”

    Loved this headline!

  71. blessedistruth Says:

  72. blessedistruth Says:





  73. blessedistruth Says:

    “Miller on Shirley Sherrod Uproar”


  74. blessedistruth Says:

    Dennis Miller suggests Sherrod partly to blame.

    Just after 2:15

    When you nibble on that cookie, man, nothing good can happen.

    Listen, we were told this was going to be a post-racial presidency.

    Does it feel like that?

    It doesn’t feel like that to me.

    Instead of the 3rd rail, race is now the 1st and 2nd rail in this country.

    And everybody ought to just cool out a second

    It makes me long for the good old days of ACORN.

  75. blessedistruth Says:

    As he usually does, Miller makes his point in good humor.

    But the underlying sentiment is anything but.

    I think he’s spot on.

  76. blessedistruth Says:

  77. blessedistruth Says:

    This false claim made national news and stands as fact on many websites today. And it never happened.

    That didn’t stop the NAACP from using these “incidents” as a reason to ask the Tea Party activists to repudiate the racist elements in the movement:

    “The resolution came after a year of high-profile media coverage of attendees of Tea Party marches using vile, antagonistic racial slurs & images. In March, respected members of the Congressional Black Caucus reported that racial epithets were hurled at them as they passed by a Washington, DC health care protest. Civil rights legend John Lewis was called the “n-word” in the incident while others in the crowd used ugly anti-gay slurs to describe Congressman Barney Frank, a long-time NAACP supporter and the nation’s first openly gay member of Congress.

    Missouri Representative Emmanuel Cleaver was spat on during the incident, and so it was particularly appropriate that the resolution was passed as NAACP delegates gathered in Kansas City for our 101st Annual Convention.”


    It makes me long for the good old days of … George W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Anybody But Obama.

  78. blessedistruth Says:

    The above was excerpted from this article:


  79. blessedistruth Says:



    Dr. Ron Polland speaks with The Post & Email


    by Sharon Rondeau

    (Jul. 21, 2010)



  80. blessedistruth Says:

    Obama pal slams WND for eligibility reporting

    Guv candidate declared president’s birth was at Hawaii’s Kapiolani Hospital


    Former Democratic Rep. Neil Abercrombie

    In a clear reference to WND, the site continued, “These rumors are being spread by Neil’s political opponents and conspiracy theorists including those behind the so-called ‘birther’ movement who continually claim that President Obama was not born in the U.S.”

    WND, meanwhile, has never reported Obama was born outside the U.S.

    Instead, WND has reported that Obama has not released documentary evidence conclusively proving his place of birth.

    As WND previously reported, Abercrombie is known for his role in the dispute over Obama’s constitutional eligibility for the presidency.

    In 2009, the then-congressman read and posted a letter ostensibly from Obama in which the president purportedly declares his birth to have been at the Kapiolani Medical Center for Women & Children in Honolulu.

    The White House has still not confirmed it wrote or sent the letter.


    (This, BTW, is why Obama refuses to protect Arizona families. He wants the votes to stay in power.)

    Eliseo Medina, international executive vice president of the Service Employees International Union, has been honored by Democratic Socialists of America.

    During the most recent presidential campaign, Medina served on Obama’s National Latino Advisory Council.

    WND reported Medina, speaking at a 2009 Washington, D.C., conference, declared granting citizenship to millions of illegal aliens would expand the progressive electorate and help ensure a progressive governing coalition for the long term.

  81. blessedistruth Says:

    Image here:



    “The Kapi’olani Medical Center claims to “know” the letter is real, but hospital spokeswoman Keala Peters refused to corroborate the content, specifically that Obama was born at her facility as the letter asserts.

    “We know that [the letter] came from Mr. Obama,” she said.

    When asked how she “knew” that and how the hospital came to receive the message, Peters only stated, “[Congressman] Neil Abercrombie personally brought it.”

    He tried to pass this BS letter, but the hospital has no record of Obama being born there.

    -end snip-

    12 posted on Wednesday, July 21, 2010 9:23:23 PM by Red Steel

  82. blessedistruth Says:

    AP: Homeland Security probed FOIA requesters, delayed data based on politics



    Hey, hey, hey!

    Don’t forget this little gem!

    J-No has no “amore” for Jihadist Dean Martin (which is a common terrorist name)!


    rosettasister Says:

    July 17, 2009 at 12:17 am

    Treasurer Martin On No-Fly List

    New Status Could Be Political Payback, Martin Says


  83. blessedistruth Says:

    Fred Barnes is a Teddy Bear!

    The Vast Left-Wing Media Conspiracy

    Everyone knew most of the press corps was hoping for Obama in 2008.

    Newly released emails show that hundreds of them were actively working to promote him.



    BTW Fred Barnes is the reason I came up with Michael “I just make shit up” Moore.

    Michael Moore and Me

    From the May 31, 2004 issue: An encounter with the Cannes man.

    BY Fred Barnes


  84. blessedistruth Says:


    I wish I understood these matters. But I do know this is an intelligent conversation about the current state of our economy.

    Please watch to the end to see Senator Gregg’s closing remarks.

    Airtime: Wed. Jul. 21 2010 | 4:02 PM ET

    Discussing why the markets didn’t like what they heard from the Fed chairman, with Jim Lacamp, Macroportfolio Advisors; Andrew Busch, BMO Capital Markets Global; Sen. Judd Gregg, (R-NH) and CNBC’s Steve Liesman.


  85. blessedistruth Says:

    Senator Gregg posted an edited video on his YouTube Channel

  86. blessedistruth Says:

    “75 percent of the savings being in spending, and 25 percent in revenues”

    Senator Judd Gregg

    In an interview today with ABC News, Gregg said the following:

    “Everything has to be on the table – there’s no question about that,” Sen. Judd Gregg, R-N.H., said on ABC/Washington Post’s “Top Line” today.

    “Erskine Bowles, one of the co-chairmen of the commission, has suggested a 75-25 split — 75 percent of the savings being in spending, and 25 percent in revenues…

    “I think it’s likely that there will have to be a revenue component, but it should be significantly, dramatically — and a 3-1 ratio is pretty dramatic — dramatically less than the initiatives in the spending side of the ledger.”

    (75 -25? 75% savings in spending? I like the sound of that. 25% savings in revenues? What does that mean exactly? If we could ever accomplish GDP growth again, we could raise revenues without tax hikes.)

  87. blessedistruth Says:

    James Pethokoukis

    Why the rush to raise taxes?

    Here is the formula:

    a) cut spending;

    b) create a more pro-growth tax system;

    c) see what sort of budgetary gap remains.

    As the Japanese election shows, voters are dubious of the need for dramatically higher taxes.

  88. blessedistruth Says:

    ECB study casts doubt on wisdom of more stimulus


    The EU’s central bank argues against spending more government cash (via taxpayers) to boost economies:

    Finally, our results indicate that rising government debt is the main reason for declining spending multipliers at longer horizons, and thus increasingly negative long-run consequences of fiscal expansions.

    In the spirit of Giavazzi and Pagano (1990) and Giavazzi, Jappelli, and Pagano (2000), we interpret this finding as an indication that further accumulating debt after a spending shock leads to rising concerns on the sustainability of public finances.

    In this context, agents may expect larger fiscal consolidation in the future which, in turn, depresses private demand and output.

    JimmyP: The study also found that each $1 of government stimulus spending only produces 50 cents of GDP growth.

  89. blessedistruth Says:


    RT @RLMcMahon: @JimPethokoukis So GM buys AmeriCredit to finance loans to buyers w/ low credit scores? Somebody pinch me and wake me up….

  90. blessedistruth Says:

    Glenn Beck audibly and visibly upset.

    Who can blame him?

    I’m beginning to wonder which flag I owe allegience to. The City of Peoria, the State of Arizona or the United States of America?

    I don’t know, maybe decentraliztion is the answer.

    But I haven’t given up on these United States yet.

  91. blessedistruth Says:

    Transcript from Glenn Beck TV today:

    Big Brother Arrives


  92. blessedistruth Says:

    Good stuff








  93. blessedistruth Says:

    New Thread:

    I will send the Comforter, the Spirit of Truth, and he shall guide you in all things.


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