Dnipropetrovsk authorities announced a reward of 500,000 dollars for the issuance of Tsarev law enforcement agencies. But deputy still intends to return to Ukraine. In an exclusive interview AiF.ru he talked about the fight in Donetsk and Lugansk, Kiev authorities new prospects and destiny of Ukrainian political prisoners.
On the resistance of Donbass
Lyudmila Alekseeva, AiF.ru: – What do you think of Donetsk and Lugansk now have someone to negotiate in Kiev, whether in the long term follow any negotiations?
Oleg Tsarev: – Negotiation – consultation, so to speak – can be started only after the current government cease fire. Nowhere in the world has never held talks on the background of shooting each other people.
– If the Donetsk and Lugansk now spaced their right to independence, you can see for yourself the opportunity to lead the new government?
– I’ve never worked in the executive, never put such a task as an end in itself. If people are invited, if you put such a task, I will definitely work. The current team is not so much the politicians having this experience and expertise.
– Why was the Slovyansk reference center of resistance – that’s the one we hear in the news? After Donbass – is a lot of small towns that have not recognized the new Ukrainian authorities.
– It turned out that they first put things in order, they first took power, first challenged the junta, so became a symbol of resistance. This is very important. You, as a journalist, should know this: it is very important to win characters.Slovyansk – a symbol of armed resistance.
– The situation with the autonomy of Crimea began much earlier, although the outlook and the Crimea and the Donbass were about the same: and there, and there is a large population of Russian people. Why Donetsk and Lugansk joined the struggle for independence later, Kharkiv and why so quickly stopped?
– He is not silent. There people go to rallies, there is the large number of prisoners, more than 100 people. About Donetsk and Lugansk – it happened. Crimea easier, there was a contingent. Peninsula easier to detach, because there is an isthmus. In Donetsk, Lugansk and do not, but believe me, people out there who are fighting for their loved ones, no less emphatically set.
– Donetsk and Luhansk regions now acted on a scenario reminiscent of the scenario, the situation in South Ossetia and Abkhazia – they declared their independence, to no one joined, not universally acknowledged. What will happen next?
– I hope that the scenario will be different. Ideal scenario, I think the liberation of all of Ukraine from the Nazis and the creation of the scheme of Donetsk and Lugansk, not from above, not from the center and from the regions – a new federal state. Where Russian is the state language, which will be the maximum right from the regions where it will be non-aligned status of Ukraine, and where will be banned Nazi ideology.
Oleg Tsarev rally in Lugansk. Photo: Reuters / Valentyn Ogirenko
About the new Kiev authorities
– New Kiev authorities in this country you do not leave the place?
– No. I believe that it is criminal. They must take responsibility for what they did.
– How do you assess the results of past presidential elections in Ukraine?
– Victory Poroshenko everyone predicted, all preliminary ratings showed that he will win. Said that he does not win in the first round … I can not talk about how the elections took place in Ukraine, but I was at this point in Donetsk and we saw the situation. When declared that such and such sites are voting here in Donetsk and Lugansk, we sent people they came, found it indoors. Then these areas showed some votes. So I have big doubts about the veracity of those figures, which announced.
– Many say that the contradictions in Ukraine have been accumulating for a long time that the West and the East have long ceased to look in one direction and to understand each other. Can wait for the script Ukraine Yugoslavia?
– I would never have had such a situation as it is now, if for a sufficiently long period of time not to pour money into Ukraine. Efforts have been made to create a situation where the Ukrainian will shoot in Ukrainian. By itself, it would never work out.
– What do you think, how long will the new Ukrainian government?
– In the fall of the current government will be very difficult.
– Why the fall?
– Because Ukrainian industry is not viable due to Russia.
On “Party of Regions”
– What is happening in the “Party of Regions”? You were expelled from the party, but you continue to follow its fate?
– Communicate, I have many friends there. Party functions, let us follow the events, I do not want to comment on it.
– How do you assess the shape of Rinat Akhmetov, who in past events proved nor with those of any other, somewhere in the middle, and in the end was, in fact, driven by all?
– Events are developing such a way that does not take a position anymore. The first who tried to occupy some such intermediate position was Gennady Kernes. We are with him founded Ukrainian front, he then tried – in the interests of the citizens, he good mayor – choose some more balanced position, engage in more communal issues. He failed. Adhered to the same tactics and Rinat Akhmetov. This position – losing in advance. Need to choose with whom you.
Oleg Tsarev (left) at the Congress of People’s Representatives “Donetsk in 2014.” Photo: RIA Novosti / Natalia Selivyorstova- What now with your supporters?
– Many people have died, many are in prisons, so six months were difficult.
– How to organize help from Moscow?
– They say, and one soldier in the field. But I am not alone, we have a powerful movement, we have dozens of people out of prison, because our lawyers help. About 400 people – participants in the resistance – are now in prison on political charges, and we all assist.
– Read the news that in your home are going to place refugees. How do you react to this?
– In my house is not able to accommodate refugees, brought them, then they went into the house, made sure that everything is burned. National Guard soldiers everything they wanted out of the house was taken. There remained one room in the guest house, it’s still possible to live, but it is one room with one bed.
– Can Yanukovych to return to power in Ukraine? How do you assess his act?
– What he did – his choice. Or personal safety, or responsibility for the country. I think he should have been in Donetsk and Lugansk.
– Do you think that you personally – yet return to Ukraine?
– Certainly. I believe in our victory.