Military expert Viktor Myasnikov, ‘U.S. supplies Ukraine information from the satellites’

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[Note: There was a time when I wouldn’t give a story like this the time of day. Now I’ve good reason to believe U.S. government lies, lies, lies …]

Military expert Viktor Myasnikov, ‘U.S. supplies Ukraine information from the satellites’

13:29 July 21, 2014

July 17 in the Donetsk region crashed Boeing 777 airline Malaysia Airlines. Victims of the disaster were 298 people.

Statement by the head of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko on evidence from satellite rocket launch from the territory controlled by the host of the DNI, which resulted in crashed “Boeing – 777”, “Evening Moscow” commented columnist of the weekly “Independent Military Review”, a military expert Viktor Myasnikov.

– Victor A., ​​there is great probability that the satellite system of Ukraine to launch fixed “Boeing”?

– First, Ukraine has no satellites that take pictures the earth’s surface. Therefore Poroshenko can only talk about the pictures taken by the Americans, and provided to the government of Ukraine. Secondly, for some reason these pictures no hurry to disclose to confirm charges against militias, which from the first moment of the tragedy with “Boeing” they began to crumble?

– American satellites were able to take pictures of a missile launch, which could bring down the Malaysian passenger plane?

– Yes, both American and Russian satellites capable of making such pictures. But remember the story in 2001, when Ukrainians during exercises missile shot down Russian S-200 TU-154 of airline “Siberia”. Then, too, the Americans presented evidence in the form of images from space showing the rocket launch from the territory of Crimea struck airliner. Years have passed, but Ukraine still has not confessed to the crime, not to mention compensation. Ukrainian authorities for 23 years of an independent state is lying, they say, at every step.

– The world needs to call those responsible for the crash. Is the head of Ukraine Petro Poroshenko not so knowledgeable in military affairs, making such serious allegations? Poroshenko or bluffing?

– In my opinion, this provocation was prepared in advance is to accuse the militia DNR and Russia in heinous crime, to bring to bear on them and on us all the rage the world, and to tighten sanctions against Russia from the West.

– Russian satellite system gives U.S. satellites?

– The United States is the most powerful satellite constellation in the world. When appears on the planet “hot spot” America “instantly tightens” it their satellites that are round the clock surveillance. Americans often share satellite-derived information with its allies. It is likely that U.S. supplies Ukraine satellite information. Unfortunately, our satellites sometimes inferior to American.

– Victor A., ​​really nothing we can present to the world as proof of his innocence to the collapse of the Malaysian “Boeing”?

– I think that our military does not disclose all of the cards. Judging by the questions asked by the Ministry of Defense of Russia to the U.S. president, Russia has the answers to all charges. Naive to think that we dutifully waiting how events will unfold in Ukraine? We also operate the system and radio intercepts, and AWACS aircraft, which record the information received, in particular from the territory of New Russia. Another thing is that Russia could in this situation to behave more aggressively, without giving the right of “first mover” enemies. Apparently, this strategy has its reasons?

– Do not rule out the possibility that the militia because of their lack of military training, so to speak, accidentally knocked a plane?

– Three weeks before the tragedy took Novorossia militia base defense with a broken launcher and three missiles may also inoperable. Error militia leadership was that they trumpeted to the world based on this defense. In fact, from this plant are of no use. At a minimum, it should have a machine control assault, as well as station radar target detection and tracking, test equipment. But this is nothing. Without all this complex base defense – not working.

– Your version of disaster?

– My version of the tragedy of the “Boeing – 777” – Kiev provocation organized by Washington to discredit the Russian government. Neither Russia nor Novorossia this tragedy with civil aircraft does not benefit. But if Russia and New Russia “dump” all the blame for the catastrophe that greatly benefit the United States and Ukraine.



Military expert Yuri Knutov: Catastrophe “Boeing-777” over the Donbas reminds American provocation 1983

The story of the investigation into the causes of the collapse of the Malaysian ship continues to gain momentum. The basic version: the plane was shot down. And consider the possibility of defeat its missiles “air-land”, issued the anti-aircraft missile system “Buk” or “air-air”, which was launched on board the interceptor.
On the possible causes and versions correspondent “Evening Moscow” spoke with a military expert, Defense Forces veterans, and now – a museum director Yury Knutova defense.

– What do you think can be version wreck of the liner?

– If you take a whole, there are several versions of the crash. This could be, for example, a terrorist act. And the fact that he fell over the area of ​​the fighting – a coincidence. There is the question of competition between companies «Boing» and «Airbus», especially as it first wins. But, of course, the most basic version of the crash – that the board was shot down. And then the most important question – how and by whom.

– How does a complex “Book”? It is interesting primarily because of the accusations against Ukraine Donetsk militias that this plane they shot down.

– Ukraine is now abuts on the presence of militia air defense missile system “Buk”. And not a single machine, and a complete system. Because this complex without radar or additional guidance to find the target is simply impossible to shoot down the plane. Especially at such a height. There is, of course, has its own built-in station, but it forms a narrow beam that, in principle, to ten thousand meters, it just does not find the target. “Book” is somewhat reminiscent of the complex “C-200”, which Ukrainians knocked our TU-154, in 2001, also highlighted the goal seeker captures purpose on earth and the rocket goes to her. ( read more … )

Ex-CIA officer Ray McGovern: I do not exclude sinister scenario in which the U.S. and Poroshenko conspired to bring down the plane

British Prime Minister David Cameron said that if a crash Malaysian liner militias involved South-East of Ukraine, the responsibility will fall on Russia.

“Evening Moscow” phoned to former CIA officer Ray McGovern, the intelligence to do more for Reagan and Bush. Intelligence analyst make conclusions about the disaster that is fundamentally different from the official position of the West.

In Washington, DC, late in the evening. But despite the inconvenience, Mr. McGovern kindly shared with us his point of view.

– How do you think that is why Prime Minister Cameron so readily blames Russia for the death of a Malaysian “Boeing”?

– Well, in essence, the same as before President Obama said. And do not expect that the British minister says something that deviates even an inch from the statements Washington. UK – State vassal of the United States. And their prime minister receives orders from Washington.

– In the case of Western countries support the rebels in third countries, and these rebels are doing something unseemly – it’s the fault of the rebels. And in a situation with Ukraine – for some reason, always blamed for all the ills Russia …

– You pointed out a very interesting logical inconstancy. Fruits of the corporate media propaganda of the United States are the same as in the case of flight KAL-007 that was shot down 1 сентября 1983, South Korea. Plane that illegally crossed the border between the USSR and several hours flying over the Russian Far East, not responding to alarms. This denigration of Russia. ( read more … )


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20 Responses to “Military expert Viktor Myasnikov, ‘U.S. supplies Ukraine information from the satellites’”

  1. blessedistruth Says:

    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople from #Obama Doubts linger where U.S. govt & Planes r concerned #NineEleven

  2. blessedistruth Says:

  3. blessedistruth Says:

    contradicts the contrail water vapor story as heard by the pilot – #chemtrails are a necessary evil

  4. blessedistruth Says:

    #CHEMTRAILS for Decades NOW, admission by #NASA #Scientist

  5. blessedistruth Says:

    #skyderAlert #chemTrails
    ‘aerial dumps of programmable “smart” molecules’
    “The fallout would look like a prion disease”

  6. blessedistruth Says:

    #skyderAlert #chemTrails #Deutschland

  7. blessedistruth Says:

    Maliki’s coalition calls for Jordan to expel Baathists and Aldoaash and not merely an apology

  8. blessedistruth Says:

    #skyderAlert #chemTrails
    I’m doing another radio interview on the #geoengineering issue Tue July 22 9-10 a.m. CST (7-8:00 a.m.PST) w Patrick Timpone

  9. blessedistruth Says:

    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople
    Files had been doctored from separate and unrelated conversations ?

  10. blessedistruth Says:

    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople provocateur
    Remember this?
    Obama basing Syria war decision on “doctored” intelligence
    ‪#‎syria‬ #israel #8200

  11. blessedistruth Says:

    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople provocateur Remember this? Obama basing Syria war decision on “doctored” intel #israel #8200

  12. blessedistruth Says:

    Kenneth Timmerman
    President, Foundation for Democracy in Iran
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    The Obama administration has selectively used intelligence to justify military strikes on Syria, former military officers with access to the original intelligence reports say, in a manner that goes far beyond what critics charged the Bush administration of doing in the run-up to the 2003 Iraq war.

    According to these officers, who served in top positions in the United States, Britain, France, Israel, and Jordan, a Syrian military communication intercepted by Israel’s famed Unit 8200 electronic intelligence outfit has been doctored so that it leads a reader to just the opposite conclusion reached by the original report.

    The doctored report was leaked to a private Internet-based newsletter that boasts of close ties to the Israeli intelligence community, and led to news reports that the United States now had firm evidence showing that the Syrian government had ordered the chemical weapons attack on August 21 against a rebel-controlled suburb of Damascus.

    The doctored report was picked up on Israel’s Channel 2 TV on Aug. 24, then by Focus magazine in Germany, the Times of Israel, and eventually by The Cable in Washington, DC.

    According to the doctored report, the chemical attack was carried out by the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division of the Syrian Army, an elite unit commanded by Maher al-Assad, the president’s brother.

    However, the original communication intercepted by Unit 8200 between a major in command of the rocket troops assigned to the 155th Brigade of the 4th Armored Division, and the general staff, shows just the opposite.

    The general staff officer asked the major if he was responsible for the chemical weapons attack. From the tone of the conversation, it was clear that “the Syrian general staff were out of their minds with panic that an unauthorized strike had been launched by the 155th Brigade in express defiance of their instructions,” the former officers say.

    According to the transcript of the original Unit 8200 report, the major “hotly denied firing any of his missiles” and invited the general staff to come and verify that all his weapons were present.

    The report contains a note at the end that the major was interrogated by Syrian intelligence for three days, then returned to command of his unit. “All of his weapons were accounted for,” the report stated.

    The New York Times reported this morning that the White House is now backing off its claims to have a “smoking gun that directly links President Bashar al-Assad to the attack.”

    The new argument is more deductive: since the Assad regime has chemical weapons and chemical weapons were used in Mouadhamiya, therefore the Syrian regime must have been the ones to use them.

    Kenneth Timmerman
    President, Foundation for Democracy in Iran
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    But even that line of reasoning falls down when confronted with evidence known to the U.S. intelligence community, and presumably, to Congress.

    An Egyptian intelligence report describes a meeting in Turkey between military intelligence officials from Turkey and Qatar and Syrian rebels. One of the participants states, “there will be a game changing event on August 21st” that will “bring the U.S. into a bombing campaign” against the Syrian regime.

    The chemical weapons strike on Moudhamiya, an area under rebel control, took place on August 21. “Egyptian military intelligence insists it was a combined Turkish/Qatar/rebel false flag operation,” said a source familiar with the report.

    The White House has gone to great lengths to shut down any independent investigation of the facts.

    A UN inspection team was on the ground in Damascus on August 21 when the Moudhamiya attack occurred, where they were awaiting authorization from the Syrian government to visit sites of earlier alleged chemical weapons attacks.

    Once word of Moudhamiya broke and the inspectors announced they planned to refocus their investigation on the fresh attack rather than the earlier ones, the White House was telling the UN to back off from gathering the facts.

    According to Monday’s Wall Street Journal, a senior administration official called UN Secretary General Ban Ki Moon before the inspectors ever left Damascus, “telling him the inspection mission was pointless and no longer safe.”

    The inspectors attempted to visit Mouadhamiya on Monday to examine victims, but were turned back by sniper fire in the no man’s land between government and rebel positions on the outskirts of Damascus. After replacing their bullet-ridden armored car, they inspectors drove into Mouadhamiya for a hurried inspection of victims presented to them by rebel forces.

    But even that inspection turned out to be inconclusive, which may be why the Obama White House didn’t want it to proceed.

    The UN Special Envoy for Syria, Lakhdar Brahimi, was circumspect in speaking to reporters yesterday on what the inspectors had actually found on the ground.

    “With what has happened on the 21st of August last week, it does seem that some kind of substance was used that killed a lot of people: hundreds, definitely more than a hundred, some people say 300, some people say 600, maybe 1,000, maybe more than 1,000 people,” Brahimi said.

    But he would not say that the substance was the deadly nerve agent Sarin, or describe how it was delivered.

    Earlier inspections by the United Nations were also inconclusive. In May, a member of the United Nations commission investigating chemical weapons in Syria said there was “strong, concrete suspicions but not yet incontrovertible proof” that sarin gas had been used in Syria against civilians.

    “What appeared from our investigation was that it was used by the opponents, by the rebels,” said Carla DelPonte, a former Swiss Attorney General and prosecutor with the International Criminal Tribunal for the Former Yugoslavia.

    “I was a little bit stupefied by the first indications we got … they were about the use of nerve gas by the opposition,” she added.

    Agents provacateurs are as old as warfare itself. What better than a false flag attack, staged by al Qaeda and its al Nusra front allies in Syria, to drag the United States into a war?

    The brutality of the Syrian regime’s assault on its own people is indefensible. But given the inevitable backlash from Iran and the possibility of spillover into Israel, we should gather the facts before unleashing the dogs of war.

    Tags: Bashar al-Assad, Kenneth Timmerman, Syria

  13. blessedistruth Says:

    bandar #syria chemical weapons carla del ponte

    Syrians say Saudi intelligence gave chemical weapons to rebels
    By Ralph Lopez
    Sep 2, 2013


    As far back as May 2013, a member of the UN Commission of Inquiry on Syria said that there was evidence, not conclusive, that government opponents had used chemical weapons.

    The member, Carla Del Ponte, is shown in a BBC segment outlining her suspicions.

  14. blessedistruth Says:

    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople #Obama admin wrong again?
    ‘They could not afford to say: “We were wrong.”’

  15. blessedistruth Says:

    Sister Rosetta
    Shared publicly – Apr 12, 2014

    #syria #iran #saudiarabia #turkey #SeymourHersh

    The Red Line and the Rat Line
    Seymour M. Hersh on Obama, Erdoğan and the Syrian rebels

    Why did Obama delay and then relent on Syria when he was not shy about rushing into Libya?

    The answer lies in a clash between those in the administration who were committed to enforcing the red line, and military leaders who thought that going to war was both unjustified and potentially disastrous.

    Obama’s change of mind had its origins at Porton Down, the defence laboratory in Wiltshire.

    British intelligence had obtained a sample of the sarin used in the 21 August attack and analysis demonstrated that the gas used didn’t match the batches known to exist in the Syrian army’s chemical weapons arsenal.

    The message that the case against Syria wouldn’t hold up was quickly relayed to the US joint chiefs of staff.

    The British report heightened doubts inside the Pentagon; the joint chiefs were already preparing to warn Obama that his plans for a far-reaching bomb and missile attack on Syria’s infrastructure could lead to a wider war in the Middle East.

    As a consequence the American officers delivered a last-minute caution to the president, which, in their view, eventually led to his cancelling the attack.

    For months there had been acute concern among senior military leaders and the intelligence community about the role in the war of Syria’s neighbours, especially Turkey.


    Although the strike plans were shelved, the administration didn’t change its public assessment of the justification for going to war.

    ‘There is zero tolerance at that level for the existence of error,’ the former intelligence official said of the senior officials in the White House.

    ‘They could not afford to say: “We were wrong.”’

    [The sooner we realize that being Secretary of State requires that person to lie repeatedly to the American people and to the world, the better. Then we’d be even more isolationist than we already are.]

  16. blessedistruth Says:

  17. blessedistruth Says:

    The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Kerry’s Latest Reckless Rush to Judgment
    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople

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  19. blessedistruth Says:

    Actual Video Footage Of MH17 Shoot Down Proves One Thing With Certainty

    Michael Thomas by Michael Thomas
    July 22nd, 2014
    Updated 07/22/2014 at 9:22 am Tweet
    That the Western Powers, including NATO, have in their possession the satellite imagery, technical data and radar signatures which categorically identify exactly where in the eastern Ukraine the missile was fired from which took down MH17. The unique signatures, in particular, also identify the precise type of missile.

    Because the Ukraine has access to advanced US and NATO radar technology, the leaders in Kiev know much more about the missile attack than what they have indicated.

    If the following video of the actual missile strike is available for all to see on the internet, then one can only imagine the volumes of raw data and technical information in existence regarding every angle of this war crime. Since it was committed against Malaysian Airlines and every person on board, it would seem that every nation involved would want access to all the relevant information and data.

    What do the Western Powers know, and why are they so slow to reveal the relevant information?

    Especially the US, UK, and the Ukraine have a great interest in how this story is spun. The Ukraine not only exerts an extraordinary amount of control over its national airspace, it also has the capability to manipulate the battlefield in ways that only the directly involved CIA and US military assets can guarantee. Therefore, it is likely that the attack on MH17 was both meticulously planned by the schememeisters at Langley as it was fastidiously executed under the guidance of Kiev.

    Whether carried out by proxies or mercenaries, such a barbaric attack on innocent international flyers was sure to provoke a firestorm of worldwide outrage. And so it has.

    Which again leaves us with the most telling question of all: Cui Bono?

    Extraordinary And Obvious Efforts To Demonize Putin And Implicate Russia

    The world has never seen so many transparent and vigorous attempts to accuse a single nation of a heinous war crime without proper investigation or presentation of the verified evidence. Clearly the Anglo-American Axis has been fabricating both evidence and narrative alike in order to label Russia as both perpetrator and/or accomplice.

    Truly, the rush to judgement reveals a subplot which cannot be denied. Someone wants Russia incriminated IN THE WORST WAY!

    Given the current setup on the geopolitical chessboard known as the Ukraine, it ought to be quite obvious who gains the most, as well as who loses the most, through the accusation of an odious murder of innocents.

    Michael Thomas
    July 22, 2014

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    Tags: cia, false flag, featured, kerry, Kiev, latest, Malaysian Flight, MH17, Obama, russia, secondary, Ukraine, usa, War Crime

    Category: Coverup, Diversion, Russia, Ukraine, Uncategorized, US, War, War Crimes

    Michael Thomas

  20. blessedistruth Says:

    #MH17 #SaveDonbassPeople
    Video shows OLD FOOTAGE? happened on 6th of June, 2014

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